butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Was this in bristol?
A Girl Called Jack... time for action?
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Was this in bristol?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Interesting. We (i.e some people, not a political group) are thinking of doing a sort of bottom up 'health audit' (i.e looking at how local doctors meet/don't meet class needs). That's exactly the sort of stuff we want to look at.
bamalama
don't do that
Just been talking to a mate who says she was charged £15 by her doctor for a letter to the housing to back up her application,doctor said they had to charge because it was beyond their remit.Funny how a thread about an individual response to a collective experience can get two individuals talking about something that may not of come up otherwise...I bet there's a name for that
bamalama
don't do that
Fuck off
Communal allotments would be a good way for like minded folk to grow their own produce maybe even have chickens too.
Sadly there is at the moment a nationwide waiting list of nearly 200,000 applicants for allotments.
There is an idea to nationalise all unused landholdings over fifty acres and give them to such communal organisations.
Sting and Jay Kaye would be over the moon I am sure to put some of their hard earned possessions to such a good use as a thank you to all who help them maintain their affluent lifestyle. Yeah, that will happen.
Yet it is criminal that in these times of austerity that all these old industrial sites that cannot have housing built on cannot be utilised for growing food for those who need the help. No it won't happen because landlords will rather sit on a idle site than let it out for a good community enterprise.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
That's because for most of the history of mankind eating has been a shared pleasurable social experience whenever possible, so the kind of cilice-wearing "it's only fuel" attitude rather flies in the face of all that shared social experience, and in the face of people deriving some sort of pleasure from their mortal existence.
Clair De Lune
Apocalypse cocktails
On a lighter note me and my daughter were laughing at the idea of making her an austerity school folder out of a pizza box. We then turned it into an austerity fan and couture hat 
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It does give some people the horn, though.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I learned to cook as a child, and I've always been fortunate enough to live near markets, so even when utterly boracic, I've never gone entirely without fresh food. If you're not that fortunate though, it's really easy to get into a processed rut, especially if your "cooking facilities" are a microwave and your chilled/frozen storage facilities are a shelf of the fridge and a third of the icebox.
That said, I'm one of those Orwell would have quantified as mis-spending, because one thing I've never skimped on, even when skint, was decent leaf tea. Not bags, and not the cheapest leaf "sweepings", but good quality Assam or Ceylon.
Fuckin right you invite scorn and ridicule ya joyless twat. Food isn't "just" or even mainly fuel, food's proper stuff that brings people together and that - What pleasure is greater than that when people like your slop? I think you're an ok guy Liam, but fuck knows where you're coming from here.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
My first GP when I moved to where I'm currently living once explained to me his criteria for writing support letters, which boiled down to him doing anything his patients asked, that fitted with their medical history and prognosis, free. What he did, however, was "soak" any external enterprise that asked him to do medical examinations (he was on the books of several pension funds including the Civil Service ones) for medical retirement cases.
It seems that the current system (commissioning groups etc) eats up a lot of the "spare time" doctors used to write those letters in, so some doctors/surgeries have made a policy of charging everyone. Unfortunately for the likes of me, those surgeries tend to be the ones with the heaviest flow of requests, precisely because they're located in areas with high concentrations of poor people.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I would do loads of things differently with the same food on the same budget but then I was born with 'fussy eater' stamped on my forehead. Guardian was propmoting her vids the other day and I took immediate hump, before checking out her website and getting the impression that she is ok, angry and practical with it. Wouldn't feed her grub to my dog though.
kittyP
Pluviophile
We are often on austerity eating atm (unless my mum brings us shopping which thankfully is reasonably frequent) and I have to say, if people started doing this when they didn't need to, I would find it fucking offensive and patronising.
Not to mention that it reaffirms the bad message to the powers that be, that people are fine eating on such a tight budget.
People sitting at home making themselves suffer is not going to do anything positive at all.
No one is going to be interested in Liam sitting at home just consuming limited "fuel" apart from him, for a pious sense of self worth.
Not to mention that it reaffirms the bad message to the powers that be, that people are fine eating on such a tight budget.
People sitting at home making themselves suffer is not going to do anything positive at all.
No one is going to be interested in Liam sitting at home just consuming limited "fuel" apart from him, for a pious sense of self worth.
andysays
Love and solidarity
It's happening closer to home than that (depending on where your home is, obvs)
Lots of housing estates in Hackney, for instance, now have small allotments set up and run by TRAs and other residents.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
cooking is a joy- yes sometimes a chore- but a joy. Getting all knotty browed and banging about the place with the radio on and that.
obviously its not the same when you are doing yourself beans on toast
weird thing is after sweating over the stove and getting it all just right, I sometimes just don't want it. Everyone else yams it down, but I have to wait an hour then nuke it and eat. WTF is that about.
obviously its not the same when you are doing yourself beans on toast
weird thing is after sweating over the stove and getting it all just right, I sometimes just don't want it. Everyone else yams it down, but I have to wait an hour then nuke it and eat. WTF is that about.
bamalama
don't do that
I'm sort of with liam on the food as fuel angle,i think there's other far more contentious stuff in the op.Here's the thing,essentially i also see food as fuel,aye i like it to taste nice but as long as there's food i'm usually happy enough.I reckon the food as a bonding,social human activity is cultural as opposed to universal,as a matter of fact thinkin about it i'd say definitely...When i was a chile we rarely ate out,weddings funerals that sort of thing,we hardly ever had carryouts.
A food treat for us was sittin in front of the telly with jafas ,apples and those stringy bags of mixed nuts.To this day i don't really like eating out,which is just as fuckin well really given our finances.
I went to a catholic boys school where ye ate what ye got quick or some older prick'd take it off ye.In our family it was a matter of gettin it down ye and gettin back to the important stuff like playing,going out,drinking whatever age you were etc.That was the culture of our ones and lots of other families i knew.Both my parents came from huge families with not a lot of money so maybe it comes from there.
My girlfriend is more into food and cooking than i am,but we're both of the opinion that if it takes more than 20 mins 1/2 hr it's a waste of time.
I know in some religious cultures food is a big deal,but i reckon there's a lot of coercion going on there as well,but essentially i'm sayin a lot of the food as fuel thing depends on the way you were reared.For what it's worth i've always been suss of "foodies",which i've always seen as a middle class affectation,loaded with snobbery and sneering,but i know this is not universal either...Anyways culture wether religious,geographical,familial,class is the driving force behind food as fuel imo,which is an interesting discussion in itself...
A food treat for us was sittin in front of the telly with jafas ,apples and those stringy bags of mixed nuts.To this day i don't really like eating out,which is just as fuckin well really given our finances.
I went to a catholic boys school where ye ate what ye got quick or some older prick'd take it off ye.In our family it was a matter of gettin it down ye and gettin back to the important stuff like playing,going out,drinking whatever age you were etc.That was the culture of our ones and lots of other families i knew.Both my parents came from huge families with not a lot of money so maybe it comes from there.
My girlfriend is more into food and cooking than i am,but we're both of the opinion that if it takes more than 20 mins 1/2 hr it's a waste of time.
I know in some religious cultures food is a big deal,but i reckon there's a lot of coercion going on there as well,but essentially i'm sayin a lot of the food as fuel thing depends on the way you were reared.For what it's worth i've always been suss of "foodies",which i've always seen as a middle class affectation,loaded with snobbery and sneering,but i know this is not universal either...Anyways culture wether religious,geographical,familial,class is the driving force behind food as fuel imo,which is an interesting discussion in itself...
bamalama
don't do that
Thanks for the compliment my girlfriend will be pleasedGood comeback, bananaman.
kittyP
Pluviophile
It is perfectly fine for someone to think of food as fuel for themselves, but saying it doesn't need to be delicious or enjoyed is ridiculous (I am not saying you said this). It is very sensory, the smell, the look, the feel, the taste, what is not to be enjoyed by good food.
Also, I personally think it is cultural and universal.
You don't have to eat out to enjoy food as a social experience, I love having a friend/friends over for food or even just cooking for badgers and me, but it's still socially bonding.
I am struggling to think of a culture that doesn't use food for bringing people together or as part of a social function.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
nazis
The Nazis made it a requirement to make at least two meals a week using left overs!
Anyone else notice the way this topic is going, Gulp (not a yummy gulp either)
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
they made the trains run on thyme
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