9/11 media happenings
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detective-boy said:
Totally, and there's no more evidence for staggering incompetence than lihop or mihop. It's all about which we believe is more likely based on our own individual experiences of life.
Incidentally DB, did you have a butchers of my link to the cooperativeresearch link i gave towards the bottom of page 55? If you do indeed spend time reading the timelines they have, then lihop and mihop become more than a possibility.
But for some reason those who accept incompetence never give it the time, even though it's entirely made up of mainstream media quotes.
editor said:
Did I deny that debris damage caused the columns collapse in 7. No.
Did I say there was a CD, or argue that it was feasable in the towers. No.
My point was that you would only have to take out one floor, although true, (because that what happened with planes) was a bit pointless. I don't think you've understood what I have said because you are so polarised within this debate.
I myself from my first post have talked about Building 7, so I haven't 'switched tactic'.
Repeat, neither did I say it was a demolition charge that caused that one column to collapse in 7. I said that it was debris.
I did ask a slightly irrelevent question about whether one bomb could bring down 7.
But if those CD guys (MikeMC post 1428) had been on the ball they could have smashed that record by going into Building 7 and putting one charge in place.
editor said:
Did you not get past the first sentence of that paragraph editor?
Do you possess the reality mate? Or do you have your own, and i have mine?
You often ask posters for what they really believe happened, i gave my basis for how a mihop could happen, and you tell me i'm not in the right reality. Come on man, you can't have it both ways.
I'm sure my scenario is how all sorts of black ops get set in motion.
You can plant a seed many years before it bears fruit... and maybe that's just what happened.
editor
hiraethified
Too late, I read it. And your conspiraloon credentials have now been outed, so there's no need to pretend any more.EddyBlack said:
So why not just come right out with whatever evidence free barking nonsense you like, and you can rest assured you'll have fela (and his Iranian fortune telling mate) right by your side.
EddyBlack said:
No they couldn't, as they pointed out they had to prepare the steel columns so that the charges could destroy them. On average they used four charges in each location. To do a CD you have to have a sequence of explosions so that it collapses in the correct manner. The main reasons for the collapse of WTC7 appears to be the bloody great hole that it had in the side, the damage to the structure from the debris, and once again, a damned big fire!
editor said:
You've lost me there Editor, I made a joke, that is a humorous silly comment, that you didn't have your architect friends here.
Then by the time I had posted this hilarious comment Crispy had made a post and it was even more pointless.
So I couldn't give a shite if you had read it sir, and how this little joke is supposed to have 'outed my conspiraloon credentials' is beyond me.
It you who is talking nonsense.
Bob_the_lost
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It's amazing that these explosives were placed exactly where the missiles hit in the trade center towers. Even more amazing that they were able to predict exactly where the debris from the two towers would hit building 7.
Almost as amazing as the difference in thrust Eddies CD concept proposes. Jazzz's delusions are based upon lies, in that the buildings fell down in the same way as a controlled demolition, they didn't but he'll never admitt it. Eddie's proposal is that the planes could have been dispensed with.
Yes eddie, you could have destroyed the buildings with a single floor of explosives, but it wouldn't have looked anything like a conventional controlled demolition. Which is what some of the loons claim.
Almost as amazing as the difference in thrust Eddies CD concept proposes. Jazzz's delusions are based upon lies, in that the buildings fell down in the same way as a controlled demolition, they didn't but he'll never admitt it. Eddie's proposal is that the planes could have been dispensed with.
Yes eddie, you could have destroyed the buildings with a single floor of explosives, but it wouldn't have looked anything like a conventional controlled demolition. Which is what some of the loons claim.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
I think you'll find it's you that's the maroon. Try reading the post again in context.TheArchitect said:
Crispy replied to fela fans post that only a dozen people would be required to MIHOP. I then expanded on Crispy's post to include the other people that would have to be involved in MIHOP that Fela had already mentioned.
editor said:
"Conspiraloon credentials"?? Good to see your lexical adventureland is still operating.
As for your next paragraph, you cheeky bastard. I have nothing to do with 'evidence free barking nonsense', and you know that full well. So leave it out man.
Also good to see your reading skills are still on the poor side. I've not got a single iranian mate, never have had.
You do a good yarn, and twist a good fact.
editor
hiraethified
Why not cut to the quick and say what you really think?EddyBlack said:
Sure, it's possible (in a flight of fantasy sort of way) that the building could have conceivably been brought down by a single floor stuffed to the brim with carefully prepped explosives installed by invisible operatives, but there isn't a single shred of evidence to support that theory. Nothing. Zilch.
So why are you banging on about it?
Bob_the_lost
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Then don't fucking encourage them.EddyBlack said:
Bob_the_lost
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Any point you want to raise something more substantial than a mate of a mate told me it'd happen then please do so. Fact is that you haven't and you're flailing around with your own predjudices and nothing better.fela fan said:
WouldBe said:I think you'll find it's you that's the maroon. Try reading the post again in context.
Crispy replied to fela fans post that only a dozen people would be required to MIHOP. I then expanded on Crispy's post to include the other people that would have to be involved in MIHOP that Fela had already mentioned.
Yeah, i thought that quite funny and wondered when you'd get by to correct the man!
But i still stand by the fact that you don't need many people to get 'the other side' to prepare a terrorist incident. All acts of agent provacateur can only have a few people involved in order for it to not come back to them.
Bob_the_lost
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In which case the difference between a terrorist attack and a made it happen would be so insignificant as to be invisible, thus making all of your bullshit about warning signs and suspicious stock market transactions utter shite.fela fan said:
editor said:Hey liar boy! I thought you said you had nothing to add to this debate and were leaving.
About ten dull, dreary posts ago.
Calling me a liar now eh. Without even any grounds for it.
And mind you, if i groundlessly said that about you you'd fucking ban me.
Or be instantly demanding an apology and retraction.
Yet more hypocrisy from you man. Poor show sir! Good lord, what have i been missing on this kind of thread...
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Actually there are other variables that are important in calculating the 'strength' of the building.Jazzz said:
The steel that was tested was salvaged from the wreckage of the building and was therefore damaged and damage normally weakens stuff. So any tested results on the strength of the recovered steels will be lower than before the building collapsed.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
FFS, why are people ganging up on eddy? He specifically said he was talking hypothetically, and has repeatedly stated that he does not believe it was CD - for the towers and building 7. He is not, based on the available evidence (we must assume no evidence is being hidden from us or fabricated 
), a fruitloop.
), a fruitloop.Crispy said:FFS, why are people ganging up on eddy? He specifically said he was talking hypothetically, and has repeatedly stated that he does not believe it was CD - for the towers and building 7. He is not, based on the available evidence (we must assume no evidence is being hidden from us or fabricated
Operation Divide and conquer complete Commander Icke
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Bob_the_lost
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Why waste my time with the rantings and bullshit of another group of idiots? Half of their facts are probably made up, the other half will be irrelevant and/or contradictory.fela fan said:
If i find nothing at all on that link to support a grand conspiracy to manipulate the stock market and fly missiles into the towers what do i get from it? So far you've just parrotted the same bollocks that's been dredged up time and time again.
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