24 Hours in Police Custody
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The judge said something like there wasn't enough evidence to say the assault caused his death.. I was most surprised because she was only just out after her previous sentence.
bellaozzydog
rolling turds in glitter
I’ve been knobbled the last two episodes
people fucking pile in the house right at the point where they announce the sentences
DON’t TALK!!!! GET OUT THE WAY OF THE TELLY
people fucking pile in the house right at the point where they announce the sentences
DON’t TALK!!!! GET OUT THE WAY OF THE TELLY
tonysingh
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16 months for killing someone.
Fucking outrageous.
I can only speak to male prisons but there's geezers in there doing a life ride for killing in similar way. You can see in how she came across that she didn't give a fuck, that she didn't see how she was in the wrong. Right at the start there was a horrible little bit where she did what a lot abusers do and blamed the victim. "look what you made me do" kinda thing.
Fucking outrageous.
I can only speak to male prisons but there's geezers in there doing a life ride for killing in similar way. You can see in how she came across that she didn't give a fuck, that she didn't see how she was in the wrong. Right at the start there was a horrible little bit where she did what a lot abusers do and blamed the victim. "look what you made me do" kinda thing.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
That was one of the saddest 24 episodes I've watched. The sentence was utterly baffling.
sovereignb
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Never given my full attention with this show, but yesterday was something else. Since there was a max of life for intentional GBH, surely the sentence she got was just outright wrong? Truly baffling
You have to ask is it worth handing out a sentence for, lets say, common assault or some other petty offence of e.g. 4 months every 12 months or so, or do you just keep letting people get off with petty shit until they end up feeling like they won't be punished and decide to use a knife rather than a fist. I dunno.
Those short sentences are nearly always spent in a local jail with no stability, no education, no reformation etc. anyway... it's a fine line.
Border Reiver
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Going to watch it tonight.
But sentencing is so constricted now by guidelines that judges have little leeway and few sentences are appealed either up or down. Even then the change is usually only minor.
But sentencing is so constricted now by guidelines that judges have little leeway and few sentences are appealed either up or down. Even then the change is usually only minor.
Border Reiver
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There is no evidence that really supports short sentences doing anything to help crime reduction.
Correct, and they are encouraged not to plead until the cause of death is proved. For example... how much heroin did Mr. Jones have in his system before he was repeatedly kicked in the head? Enough to kill him? And people do get away with it sometimes.
Always an exception to the rule. I got a total of 5 months not long ago -2m2m1m all consecutive- appealed it and got them all concurrent... I walked out on the last court day before Christmas
or vice versa, which is why I said it's a thin line.
Border Reiver
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I didn't say that it did not happen. Just that it is a waste of time and money. The Scottish governnent is trying to stop all short sentences. Unlikely to happen in England because of Express/Mail thinking.Always an exception to the rule. I got a total of 5 months not long ago -2m2m1m all consecutive- appealed it and got them all concurrent... I walked out on the last court day before Christmas
Border Reiver
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Using prison without it having any real effect is a waste of resources.
Ye, that's what I thought at the time as well, so I didn't even take an overnight bag. G4S bastards sneeringly said ''this'll be a quick search''
so do we allow petty crime to go unpunished? if so, for how long? it's a difficult one. Probation service is a joke anyway, now that it's a company.
Border Reiver
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Why spend money on doing something that just disrupts someone's life with no societal benefit?
tonysingh
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Always an exception to the rule. I got a total of 5 months not long ago -2m2m1m all consecutive- appealed it and got them all concurrent... I walked out on the last court day before Christmas
You lucky cunt. I got 2 x 6 months consecutive on the last court day before Christmas.
You lucky cunt. I got 2 x 6 months consecutive on the last court day before Christmas.
I knew I was getting a walkout as soon as they came for me in the morning, and then they took fucking hours to do all the checks before I got out of the cells.
tonysingh
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That last bit, when you're in the flowery as they process your release paperwork? Fuck that's looooong.
I swear they put the thickest fucking possible screws on reception and that.
BCBlues
Lend us a Twenner
Not quite on the same level I admit but very similar to when hospitals discharge you but make you wait 9 hours for a prescription of 4 paracetamol with your discharge note
This was from court though don't forget... so they had to do it all twice.
tonysingh
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tonysingh
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I'd compare her sentence with that guy who had an episode and went a bit off with the gun. He didn't actually kill anyone, though it was close. He got a lump, I think it was 26 years? He had a troubled past too. Mind you he was also black which adds a tax onto your sentence.
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