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24 Hours in Police Custody

first guy clearly not on a heavy dose of roids

spots and rage

jebus how bad are criminal these days..

linked to the site by newish cars :facepalm:
 
its a new 4 part series methinks

next episode is next monday :)


the bbc series is no bad either same narrator methinks :hmm:
 
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Just watched that, lots of familiar places. The Maine rd dead end was where my mates lived when I first moved to Manchester. The flat they were looking for Darren Berkeley was Hulme not moss side.

And Carlos buller was convicted of assault years ago after his appearance on come dine with me was repeated and someone resigned him. Anyone who was clubbing in Manchester late 80s through 90s would know of his brother Fonzo....or MVITA, (Manchester Vibes In The Area).

 
And Carlos buller was convicted of assault years ago after his appearance on come dine with me was repeated and someone resigned him. Anyone who was clubbing in Manchester late 80s through 90s would know of his brother Fonzo....or MVITA, (Manchester Vibes In The Area).

Ooh, interesting stuff :cool:

 
it’s like the fuckers can’t find any “English” criminals to chase after

Just coincidentally in watching crinwatch and don’t see what your problem is? If he speaks with an Irish accent and is in England where Irish accents aren’t common then why not mention it🤷‍♂️ It’s like saying you don’t like them mentioning the massive scar he has on his face as a distinguishing feature... I think some folk take offence just for the sake of it nowadays.
 
Just coincidentally in watching crinwatch and don’t see what your problem is? If he speaks with an Irish accent and is in England where Irish accents aren’t common then why not mention it🤷‍♂️ It’s like saying you don’t like them mentioning the massive scar he has on his face as a distinguishing feature... I think some folk take offence just for the sake of it nowadays.
You want to keep this up?
 
You want to keep this up?
Not particularly, as I said it was just coincident I had it on in the background and, I assume, the chap the other poster referred to popped up again today. They did also mention his massive scar as well as his(not very common in England) accent, by the way.
 
Just watched that, lots of familiar places. The Maine rd dead end was where my mates lived when I first moved to Manchester. The flat they were looking for Darren Berkeley was Hulme not moss side.

And Carlos buller was convicted of assault years ago after his appearance on come dine with me was repeated and someone resigned him. Anyone who was clubbing in Manchester late 80s through 90s would know of his brother Fonzo....or MVITA, (Manchester Vibes In The Area).


Just to correct something. Carlos In the detectives is apparently son of CDWM Carlos.
 
shoudl have got about 6 years in my view, if that. but no sooner than that because he's obvisouly dangerous in his current state. 22 years is sick.
 
22 years is pointless, utterly pointless. The dude could have gotten therapy, sorted himself out and that in with a sentence of say 5 or 6, with a portion of that in a secure forensic unit.

22 years in big man jail will only turn him into an even angrier and much dangerous person upon release, assuming he makes it through.

I totally get his victims anger, that's understandable and especially so when one considers that he's not from that life were violence is the norm. I really, truly hope the guy finds peace after such a traumatic experience. Its awfully sad that he felt he had to move back to Poland to recover.

However, my thoughts tonight are with the fella looking down the barrel at a lump. It's just...i wasn't expecting the end credits to say that he got that long. I also hope that the screws on his houseblock have the savvy enough to put him on suicidewatch right fucking now and for a while ahead. Seeing that on telly must feel like being sentenced again.
 
The tears struck me. Having watched so much true crime over the years on TV etc, you rarely ever get tears. Normally just seering difiance, anger, or rationalisation. The guy tonight was broken and you could see he was owning his shit. Like finally having hit bottom and there's no where else to look other than oneself. I've been there with drink and it was that period of finally owning it all that made me quit.
 
That scene where the poor Polish bloke is lying prostate fighting for his life. :(

Not sure of the ethics of it all, but it's certainly a compelling series.
 
Very good episode. The end where the solicitor was reading his history just reminded me of so many care leavers I've met who could've been sat there. Few would've had the insight to say the sort of things he did. I couldn't help wondering what made him snap aside from the exhaustion of carrying around so much anger. At 21 his realtionship with Children's Services would end and as bad as that might've been they're possibly the only consistent presence in his life. Many would've internalised the anger and killed themselves before harming others and I wondered what creates that difference. As the episode last week reminded me of Joseph McCann I thought of Jonty Bravery who killed the kid after insisting there was somethigng wrong with him and he needed services.

I guessed he might get about 12 years but a random attack on a stranger with no apparent motive and the impact statement provided by him trumps childhood trauma in court. Most people can't comprehend the impact of being abused and of neglect on brain development but the fear of being attacked is ever present. I really wonder how someone lwho's had such a shitty upbrining even begins to try to make sense of the world. Even with 12 years do 8 and license after it might've been a chance to change but with 15 years before parole is considered he's gonna need to dig very deep to have any sort of meaningful future. Very sad indeed.
 
Sheesh... the next 16 year to think about it!

This is why you don’t get involved in guns. A lad, not a friend, I know got ten year just for shooting the bonnet of a car... no intent to endanger life or any of that, no members of the public nearby.... ten year! He was 19.

What a waste.
 
Very good episode. The end where the solicitor was reading his history just reminded me of so many care leavers I've met who could've been sat there. Few would've had the insight to say the sort of things he did. I couldn't help wondering what made him snap aside from the exhaustion of carrying around so much anger. At 21 his realtionship with Children's Services would end and as bad as that might've been they're possibly the only consistent presence in his life. Many would've internalised the anger and killed themselves before harming others and I wondered what creates that difference. As the episode last week reminded me of Joseph McCann I thought of Jonty Bravery who killed the kid after insisting there was somethigng wrong with him and he needed services.

I guessed he might get about 12 years but a random attack on a stranger with no apparent motive and the impact statement provided by him trumps childhood trauma in court. Most people can't comprehend the impact of being abused and of neglect on brain development but the fear of being attacked is ever present. I really wonder how someone lwho's had such a shitty upbrining even begins to try to make sense of the world. Even with 12 years do 8 and license after it might've been a chance to change but with 15 years before parole is considered he's gonna need to dig very deep to have any sort of meaningful future. Very sad indeed.
From what I could gather he had a relationship with his kids, and the mother, so it wasn’t like he lost all stability when care dumped him(and thst is what happens to care leavers by the way). A very troubled young man indeed, and I fear the next 15 years in prison won’t reform him in any way whatsoever 🤷‍♂️
 
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