24 Hours in Police Custody

[Petcha]

Apparently: Garden Productions go into Luton Nick and wire up custody and quite a few strategic offices and other rooms with lots and lots of HD but small CCTV cameras and microphones . They also have teams of camera operators who both float round the building and follow officers and staff outside on jobs. They also have a team of editorial interviewers who ask questions of all those involved on camera. The filming stage doesn’t take very long six weeks or so? But they film hundreds and hundreds (thousands even?) of hours of footage. They will also go out to follow possibly interesting stories in the wider Tri-force consortium (Beds, Herts and Cambs- firearms, MCU- major crimes or ‘murder squad’ and Roads policing traffic- boring). They will also spend a few days in the force control room for background. Finally they do conventional interviews when they have more of an idea of what stories / cases they are going to use. Apparently.

The selection of stories and editing takes a couple of years as they sort through all of the content to boil down into strong narratives.
People (suspects, witnesses, staff and cops) do have to give consent which is why some faces are blurred. Really unusually- perhaps uniquely- the force though has no editorial control. The Chief Constable when Garden Productions first started got a huge amount of stick from NPCC for that, but it’s probably one of the reasons the programme is so good. That and the fact it must cost an absolute fortune compared with all that ‘police camera actin bang crash tosh’ made with a couple of blokes with a camera in the back of an ANPR interceptor.

Allegedly there are two types of senior officers in Beds. Those who tried their hardest to stay away from Luton when Garden were in. And those, often those who would never be seen near a custody block or CID office normally, who can often be seen swanning round in the background- much to the derision of everyone else... Allegedly.

Thanks for that. I'm still astonished that a suspect up for something incredibly dodgy like sex with a minor would agree to have this broadcast, without any obvious benefit to themselves.

 

[cyril_smear]

Thanks for that. I'm still astonished that a suspect up for something incredibly dodgy like sex with a minor would agree to have this broadcast, without any obvious benefit to themselves.

The mind boggles

 

[A380]

Thanks for that. I'm still astonished that a suspect up for something incredibly dodgy like sex with a minor would agree to have this broadcast, without any obvious benefit to themselves.

God knows, I’d tell them to fuck right off personally.

 

[BigMoaner]

I had that troubled past too but that don't excuse me being a shitcunt in the present so i totally get why your missus hates that excuse. Own your shit innit?

Some arrive at it, others don't.

 

[tonysingh]

Some arrive at it, others don't.

Yes, but a troubled or traumatic past only works so far as an excuse for current behaviour. I totally get that I might come across as a heartless bastard at the moment but it's a subject close to my heart. As it stands right now I'm trying to take steps with a personal crisis that could end badly.

Getting to the point you can own your shit... I'd argue that was the point of prison and lead an actual life outside, and not in the shadows. Rehabilitation as opposed to punishment but that's a hard sell to the public.

Id put myself in the same bracket as the guy that got lumped off and the woman from Monday night. My first offence that warranted custodial? Make that longer but mandate its served in a therapeutic setting. Upon release put actual support in place as opposed to probation and that should solve most of, if not all, the issues that push as far as offending behaviour.




(fuck. I'm being deep atm.)

 

[BigMoaner]

I think punishment should work side by side rehabilitation.

 

[BigMoaner]

If I steal all my folks saving leaving them destitute, why shouldn't I stare at four walls for a while? Why should I just go straight to a therapeutic setting? Both should be working at the same time.

 

[josef1878 2.0]

If I steal all my folks saving leaving them destitute, why shouldn't I stare at four walls for a while? Why should I just go straight to a therapeutic setting? Both should be working at the same time.

Doesn't always work. My cousin did rob his parents, served 8 years for attempted murder, did beat his smack addiction. He came out rehabilitated, got a job, a girlfriend, got made redundant. He died of a methadone overdose a very long time ago.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

These programmes are all incredibly sad. I'm watching the latest one now and she is clearly covered in self harm scars. I can't condone what she's done of course but everyone involved in these cases of violence always make me very sad for the people involved.

 

[tonysingh]

These programmes are all incredibly sad. I'm watching the latest one now and she is clearly covered in self harm scars. I can't condone what she's done of course but everyone involved in these cases of violence always make me very sad for the people involved.

At their heart lays a lack of mental health care in this country. I repeat that therapy plus compassion would be infinitely preferable to punitive punishments.

 

[ddraig]

New Series on Monday at 9pm

 

[Part 2]

Fuck this is brutal.

 

[Ax^]

puts it on record on +1

reminded me

 

[Supine]

Fuck this is brutal.

Really hope they get this guy

 

[moomoo]

They didn’t say what sentence he got did they?

 

[Supine]

They didn’t say what sentence he got did they?

No

 

[moomoo]

Ah. According to Twitter…

He's still awaiting sentencing, he will appear in Luton Crown Court on October 7th, he's remaining in custody until then.

 

[ddraig]

OMG I forgot to watch it and now can't go back to start

 

[Ax^]

dad is fucking suspicious

 

[tonysingh]

dad is fucking suspicious

How so? I thought his actions in releasing the video were understandable.

 

[Ax^]

just odd to make the attacker go to ground so quickly in multiple countries


fustration at the police is one thing but having no real contacts and throwing that out immediately

 

[Ax^]

Brotel inforcers attacks were you live


why the fuck do they know you and where you live

 

[pbsmooth]

enjoy the series and found this one interesting if very grim. but did feel they rushed the end. felt like it would have been better if they could have waited another six months and tied it all up a bit more and stuck it in next series (as if I know anything about how TV series are made/planned).

 

[neonwilderness]

but did feel they rushed the end. felt like it would have been better. if they could have waited another six months and tied it all up a bit more and stuck it in next series

I thought the same, it felt like lots was missed out compared to previous episodes. I was only half watching by the end, but don't think I heard any mention of a motive for the attack?

 

[Ax^]

that's the very odd part hope the revisit down the line,

something very dodgy from a guy who is help running a brothel to appear to randomly attack that house, could easily of be something far more sinister going on only stopped by the other women being in the house

 

[Ax^]

.

 

[neonwilderness]

Also did they find out what was stolen? The guy grabbed a couple of things before he left, but looked to me like something really specific he knew to find or just something to grab to make it look like a burglary?

 

[pbsmooth]

certainly didn't seem like a random burglary - you'd bail on that when people answer the door surely. they thought he was grabbing what he believed to be a hard drive for the security camera. one possibility would be the victims were known to him for some reason but they apparently found no evidence of that and the way the male victim acted, with all the publicity etc, made it seem less likely imho.

 

[Part 2]

Thought the end was rushed but I'd read there's 6 episodes in the series and assumed it would roll over to next week. One of the best things about the programs for me is the police interviews and there wasn't enough in this one.

Also felt there was more to it. If he was waiting for a plane 5 hours later I'd think there was some planning involved but It looked like he was completely unprepared and didn't have much of a plan once he was in the house.

One explanation might be that he was at the wrong address?

 

[Indeliblelink]

Isn't having CCTV inside your house a bit odd or is that something people do these days now the technology is cheap?