stuff_it
Too skool for cool
Hah, was hoping for a job ad, lol.
14th November Movement for Left Unity
- Thread starter chilango
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emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Thinking of applying?
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
I've worked worse places, I suspect.Thinking of applying?
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Just seems to me that it will eat up a huge amount of their income, especially as they also say they will have to sort out office space, which means rent and then there is equipment as well. If you only have one part time worker, why can't they just work from home?
They are only asking for £2 per month membership.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Would you want all a national party's paperwork, finances and people cluttering up your home? A part timer and an office should be doable on a grand a month. Whichshouldntb e beyond there means considering how successful they are going to be. I mean, are already.
Why is that?
Everyone seems to be either a scab, fucking idiots, class traitors, or a cunt.
FFS.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Just seems a big investment to me. But I suppose if they need it, they need it.
That's a link to a link to a tweet in which she says she's - very controversially admittedly - clearing some nappies up during a binmen strike.
"Personally, don't think picking dirty nappies from street & putting in bag on side of road undermines importance of strike"
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Oh please, TUSC has failed completely and utterly. it gets derisory votes and it's aim to standing 625 seats is just moronic.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Doing the work of people on strike is the definition of scab, surely?
Although see J Ed's post after mine.
What should they do then?
Was that what she was doing?
Sounds to me that she was just picking up some shit and putting it in a bag to be collected. Perhaps the bag had been vandalised or chewed up by foxes or something. I think, given the particulars, that isn't unreasonable. It's not the same as driving the bin lorry and collecting it yourself and would probably make the binmen's job easier when they have to go back and pick up all the shit that's spilled onto the streets in the meantime.
Am I wrong?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Stop pretending. Admit that that tactic has failed and summary new needs trying. But no, they'll carry on regardless getting embarrassingly tiny votes and pretending they're successes.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
In pretty much everything you post - yes.
I don' t know if they are pretending they're successes. I do know that they have an uphill struggle: they don't get a platform in the media (look at how much time is given to Ukip ffs), they operate in a fucked up democracy in a capitalist system. The odds are totally against them. Now maybe they are on a hiding to nowhere, in which case, again, what do they do?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
If they are on a 'hiding to nowhere'(
) then why defend repeating the action that lead to the hiding? You seem to want to want it every which way - how on earth do you square this series of posts about TUSC and the greens with your plea for people to vote labour? Incoherent.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
It means a number of things.
Initiatives such as Left Unity occur every few years with numbing regularity.
By and large it's exactly the same people, having exactly the same discussions/arguments every single time.
And every time they do exactly the same things with exactly the same results.
Yet they carry on regardless.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
And so they should!
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
UKIP have 13 MEPs many councillors and poll solidly in the medium to high teens. The comparison with TUSC is miles off. What is this media obsession as well?
I'm not aware of other attempts. All i know is that the left seems hell bent on self destruction while the soceity is torn to shit by right wingers racists, bigots, corporations and cunts. It'd be nice to have some answers.
In next years vote the only choices on my ballot paper will be either Tory, who recently took over from the Libdems, who have traditionally held sway here. Labour won't get a look in, but are the only real chance of ousting this nighmare even though they aren't up to much. The rest are independent candidates, like Katie Hopkins, or BNP (if they stand - or some other England for teh English party) or UKip.
No left choice at all. Something needs to change, but it seems noone wants that to happen; either, as you say, through self destruction, or through sniping from the sidelines. Open season for the right wing gutter press.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
It'd be worth your while doing a bit of "background reading" then. Might help answer some of your questions.
Surely then they'll be seen as pro-EU lefy commie types? They can't win.
In the local elections last year Radio Bristol had a 'discussion' with the candidates. Even ukip got invited. Tusc only got a mention as 'tusc are also standing'. Noone was invited to speak from them nor was their cause even explained. They were relegated to the same platform as the Monster Raving party.
What do you recommend?
I can't know the polticis of every person in every part of the country.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
eh? no, its just another shit platform, that gets the alternatives totally wrong
because they get even fewer votes. Thats what happens
So how do they break thorugh if they can't even get invited to a discussion to at least put their point across?
Seems unfair to criticise them for the system they have to operate in.
Seems unfair to criticise them for the system they have to operate in.
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