belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
We must complete the bourgeois revolution, and destroy our undemocratic state before we can move on to socialism. He's been making the same (one) argument for the last thirty years, at least.
14th November Movement for Left Unity
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Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Full marks for bloody minded persistence though.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
well, as long as you dont have to be in the same room.
It was vaguely amusing when he first came to ISN meetings. Most people there (other han me, Andy W, and Hazel C) hadn't heard him before and were quite impressed by his coherent, and (in context) relatively sane argument. It was only around the third meeting, when he made the same speech and shoehorned it into any discussion (the state of the working-class, intersectionalism) that pennies started dropping.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Oh, he's a decent enough sort is he, the councillor your party just expelled for opposing cuts?
Fuck off.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Reheated Stalinism FTW.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
He didn't get expelled, he resigned because he wasn't longlisted for Edmonton...
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Oh, I am sorry. Not expelled; suspended three times for campaigning and voting against cuts.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Election results out - http://leftunity.org/internal-elections-2015-results/
Jack Conrad's reports of the national council will be highly incisive, no doubt.
Jack Conrad's reports of the national council will be highly incisive, no doubt.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
"Doing politics differently" with some tedious bureaucratic ritual packed with names that have been kicking around the scene for decades.
How exactly are Left Unity "doing politics differently"? Cos all I can see is a regroupment of homeless lefties.
Nowt wrong with that, but it is what it is.
* shrugs, sighs and wanders off*
How exactly are Left Unity "doing politics differently"? Cos all I can see is a regroupment of homeless lefties.
Nowt wrong with that, but it is what it is.
* shrugs, sighs and wanders off*
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Why were a bunch of candidates disqualified (as mentioned in the "notes" link after links to some of the counts)?
cutandsplice
putting things together
Wrong sort of left unity.
It looks like they were standing for several offices simultaneously and took the first one they were elected to thereby disqualifying themselves from the others - which seems legit.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Not the people I was asking about. You are right that a number of candidates were removed from various races because they were elected by another route to another position on the leadership. But there were also others who were disqualified without being elected to another position. They seem to mostly be CPGB/WW people, although not all CPGB/WW people were disqualified.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I don't think you are allowed to be nominated by a single person any more, which 'Peter Manson' has done a couple times. Tina Becker also got nominated by Sheffield (her own branch), and I wonder if that has been questioned, as the CPGB have driven everyone else out of said branch. I dont know tho
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Who is Tina Becker? How many Sheffield members do the CPGB have? Why have I only met LR?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
She's LR's partner, amongst other things, not a bad person. L has actually left the party now. They have two other members, I believe.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
I was asked to be the token anarchist at a uni Left Forum election hustings the other day - which was me, a Green, a Left Unity member & a member of the Socialist Campaign for Labour Victory. The Left Unity (Workers' Power) speaker's main pitch consisted (aside from criticising other groups) of telling us all how now was a brilliant moment to join LU because they're only 2 years old and haven't had the major discussions about where the party was going yet.
"Join us because we're don't know what the fuck we're for" was a certainly new one for me...
"Join us because we're don't know what the fuck we're for" was a certainly new one for me...
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
aah, bless
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Was inclined to think that about all 3 of them, but then that raised some pointed questions about my own participation so I left it...
brixtonscot
Well-Known Member
Steve Freeman - another England is possible - interviewed by the taxi driver
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