"Young professionals" to infest flats above Iceland
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That's on the "nightmare" Northern Line.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I walk to work but when hungover/late I get the bus to work and it takes only five minutes longer than the tube, so it's not just the tube in Brixton that's convenient.
editor said:
Part of it but I would favour Brixton anyday over Vauxhall - which has vastly superior transport links. Everywhere in the Vauxhall area is within 10 minutes walk of at least two tube stations and at least 3 night bus routes let alone loads of bus routes. But nowhere in north Lambeth is anywhere as interesting a place to live as Brixton - just to take one instance the market is at least fifteen times the size of the next biggest if you go north of it.
And Peckham may have a reasonably sized market but public transport after about 9pm from the centre of London becomes a pain - with up to half an hour between trains and quite a long bus journey.
Hollis said:
You keep saying that, but you've provided no plausible, low-cost genuine alternative to Brixton with comparable transport and location. South London ain't stacked with places - Vauxhall certainly ain't cheap.
I've maintained throughout that people tend to move to areas they feel they 'belong' in, which is why I'm wary of people condemning any future waves of young folk wanting to move to Brixton as 'yups' That said, I don't believe that they constitute the dominant reason why Brixton's land values have gone up so much. And besides, you'd have to be a mug to move into a 'unpopular' part of town just to prove a point, just as much a fool as if you moved somewhere solely because it was 'trendy'
editor
hiraethified
What point are you trying to prove?Hollis said:
I didn't say I moved to Brixton exclusively for its transport links: I said that the proximity to a tube played a part in my decision.
The main reasons I came to Brixton were
(a) I was offered a flat there and
(b) I had more friends living there than anyone
(c) I liked the Albert and Cooltan
If all I'd been offered at the time was a place in Finsbury Park, I probably would have moved there instead because at the time I was rather partial to the George Robey (RIP).
Good job I didn't though. I fucking hate the area.
Hollis said:
No, keep up dear.
They moved there because the could find something within their price range and near to their friends and work.
I guess that they could have moved to Wembley and then paid extra for a taxi at the end of the night, but that may have defeated the object of living somewhere cheaper.
What point are you trying to make? That trendiness is a huge factor in housing prices. If that's it, you're doing particularly badly in backing that viewpoint up with real world examples rather than snide comments.
Hollis
bloody furious
editor said:
Point?
.. ah yes. Merely I find it laughable, tbh, the idea vibrancy etc doesn't play a major part in why alot of young 'just graduated' types want to live in Brixton. As opposed to the apparent counterargument that the reason they're all there is that its the only viable low-cost-excellent transport option in London.Hollis said:Point?
Look at the posts above and stop laughably misrepresenting what's been said on this thread. All throughout it's been argued that's it's a combination of factors which explain Brixton's housing prices. All you've done is keep pointing to supposed 'trendiness,' as if that ludicrously explains the full attraction of Brixton.
Cor. You're so cool and anti-fashion by taking that viewpoint...
Hollis said:I know I'm fucking cool, thanks.
What's laughable is your denial of Brixton's 'vibrancy' playing a major role in its 'current' difficulties/house prices.
Gah. So you keep saying. So where's the evidence that this 'trendiness' is causing the difficulty and house rises.
Is Brixton cooler than Clapham Junction? Cooler than Clapham South? Cooler than Battersea? Is it more expensive than any of them? It's not looking good is it, no major role or pattern seems to be observable?
No one's denying that it's an aspect, but the idea that it's the major factor seems way off. For every person who loves Brixton, there'll be a couple who still let its past reputation colour their perception of the place.
miss minnie
Well-Known Member
ooh yeah, wouldn't mind one of those. we had a nice little supermarket for a while, the 'moorish(?) souk', compact and bijou but brilliant and really friendly.Bob said:
now it's an internet cafe. you can still see the lovely turkish(?) tiles on the walls.i remember having a chat with the owner once when i was browsing the magazines. he had designed the cover of a palestinian magazine (box of ariel detergent 'now with added sharon'
). i didn't actually ask his origins. the place sort of 'seemed' turkish but i didn't really think about it at the time, so it might not have been turkish-run actually.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I think that you are seriously overestimating the role Brixton's "vibrancy" plays. The bars and clubs and so on probably do play a part in the minds of young people moving there. But if you think they'd go without good transport links you're mistaken, and they *would* go there without clubs and bars (since you can always go somewhere else if you've got transport). This indicates to me that the one factor is more important than the other.Hollis said:I know I'm fucking cool, thanks.
What's laughable is your denial of Brixton's 'vibrancy' playing a major role in its 'current' difficulties/house prices.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
If you take the bus down to Streatham there are a few there on the high street. The ones down south seem to me to be a bit more mediterranean/eastern european, but there's a similar range of produce, it's not quite Greek.miss minnie said:ooh yeah, wouldn't mind one of those. we had a nice little supermarket for a while, the 'moorish(?) souk', compact and bijou but brilliant and really friendly.
i remember having a chat with the owner once when i was browsing the magazines. he had designed the cover of a palestinian magazine (box of ariel detergent 'now with added sharon'
I miss the Turkish groceries from when I was in Seven Sisters. Best thing about the place. Not that that's difficult.
Hollis
bloody furious
Bob said:This is beginning to have shades of Chris Morris:
Is this cool?
Is he cool?
Its true though.. why is it that people hate admitting that they've moved to an area because its cool, once they've moved there because its cool.I mean you've got to start thinking your cool, to start going on about the weekend 'tourists'.
Stobart Stopper
Well-Known Member
Dagenham will be the new Brixton. Just you wait and see! 
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
There's a place called the Mediterranean Deli that I like, near the top of the high street on the bus garage end. It's got a butchers and bakery connected to it just next door, too. But there are some good ones a bit further down as well.Bob said:Ta for that - may well amble down at some point and investigate. For the time being I sate my needs with mild peppers from the deli on Atlantic road.
You allowed anna key to post as oldslapper for a full five months, knowing full well, all along, that he was anna key.editor said:
Don't try to deny it. Absolutely loads of people, especially in the Brixton forum, have known since last October that you knew it was him all along so don't try to deny it. I have witnessed countless pub conversations where this has come up, some with mods present.
You allowed him to post just so long as he didn't say anything you disagreed with. Then you banned him on the sly when nobody was looking.
I think that is pretty fucking disgraceful behaviour, personally.
Don't start throwing your toys out of your pram about 'disgusting lies'. You'll only make yourself look even more shitty. Everybody always knew. They spotted it straight away and ther is no way your toadies wouldn't have been falling over themselves to point it out to you. Though they'll be falling over themselves to deny it now, of course.
Oh what's the point?
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I think you're mixing up "cool" with "desirable". There are plenty of desirable things about Brixton, apart from the transport, which is unusually good for South London - shops, cafes, bars, the market etc. "Cool" means it has a particular reputation. I don't think that many people move somewhere because of its reputation, regardless of what it's actually like. The reputation may help you hear of it in the first place but that's not the same thing.Hollis said:
The idea that young people who can afford flats are all flocking to Brixton and ignoring the rest of London isn't really accurate either. They go all over the place. Thinking of the people I know who've got houses and are approximately in that demographic, some are in Brixton, sure, some in Oval, some in Sutton, some go West or North, some aren't even in London any more... and my sample is biased as well, since I grew up near Brixton and many of my friends did too.
editor
hiraethified
So who here is the saying that the sole reason that people moved to Brixton was the transport links?!!!Hollis said:Point?
I'd imagine it was the mix of location, transport and friends in the area that would have made people like me arrive over a decade ago.
I certainly didn't move here because it was "cool" unless you think that down-to-earth squats like Cooltan and the 121 Centre were the epitome of haute couture and the Albert some sort of catwalk for Face-reading hipsters.
editor
hiraethified
Actually, I wasn't entirely sure until two weeks ago, and said so in the mods forum. Feel free to check this fact with any of the mods and then apologise.IntoStella said:
I'd say Anna Key knows more than a thing or two about 'fucking disgraceful behaviour'.IntoStella said:
And why does he think the rules of the forum don't apply to him? Is he so fucking special that he can just abuse the rules around here? A banned poster is not allowed to come back and simply carry on where he left off.
The mods collectively decided to turn a blind eye to his last alter ego so long as he showed some respect for the boards and other posters. They gave him a break.
And what did he do? He quickly went back to his usual sneering, poster-goading, yuppie-obsessed, disruptive self.
So he was banned. Again. The decision was unanimous. Not one mod wants him back.
And you can tell him from me - and the mods - that he's taken the piss for the very last time. He was given a chance. He blew it.
Toadies?! My oh my! At times it's hard to tell you two apart! Who are "my toadies" please? Could you name them for me?IntoStella said:
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