Wonderwall - opinions
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Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Nonsense. What you say was true of - say - the kinks you really got me, the sex pistols doing god save the queen , nirvana's smells like teen spirit or Radiohead doing paranoid android - they were tracks that a lot of people who were into music stood up and took notice of. Wonderwall belongs with the aforementioned robson and jerome, or Bryan Adams - a MOR rock ballard in an indie rock wrapping. It sold truckloads in exactly the way the truly great tracks dont tend to - but then go to be played for many years afterwards and be cited as influences by countless musicians. The only people who took notice that sort of notice of wonderwall were the industry beancounters and the likes of fucking coldplay.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
I'm sensing blur fans arriving
A far, far better band than oasis. The overdone mockney schick notwithstanding.
Cues up park life onto playlist
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
no, bollox, don't buy it.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
How many musicans do you think would cite wonderwall as any form inspiration or influence? Like you get with "classic rock tracks".
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
probably none, now. but, as i say, i bet they stopped what they were doing back then, watched or listened all the way through, and thought, "that's a good song."
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Anyway, the real answer to all that NME 'Battle of Britpop: Oasis vs Blur' bollocks in the 90s was actually Pulp.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Tedious shit, but Don't Look Back In Anger is worse.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
how on earth is that "pretentious"?
And not liking fucking wonderwall is hardly affecting a passion for the willfully obscure/ avant-garde world of difficult/challenging music. (note - that would be "pretentious")
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
smarter and some great songs - but take away mr cocker and their musical arrangements/playing was seriously uninspired.
I liked Liam's swagger and wearing of Stone Island clothing.
Noel was the quiet reserved one, but he had to be as he wrote all their songs.
Liam seemed to revel in turning up late at gigs coked up to the eye balls with a tambourine he would hit occasionally out of synch before smashing it off the deck then having a stare out competition with the crowd in between shouting out some lyrics.
Magic
And, how many people do you know who knew a girl called Elsa who's into Alka Seltzer?
Liam did
Noel was the quiet reserved one, but he had to be as he wrote all their songs.
Liam seemed to revel in turning up late at gigs coked up to the eye balls with a tambourine he would hit occasionally out of synch before smashing it off the deck then having a stare out competition with the crowd in between shouting out some lyrics.
Magic
And, how many people do you know who knew a girl called Elsa who's into Alka Seltzer?
Liam did
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Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
No, they're mostly unlistenable too. I remember thinking Different Class was a real disappointment after His 'n' Hers; they'd gone too far in the anthemic direction. The only British guitar albums I still much care for from that period are the first two Suede albums.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
a truly classic piece of modern music.
and the bitter truth is that 99.9% of the haters will never, ever even get near to create something so valuable to millions, so creative that it is loved and talked about and argued over up and down the land for decades to come.
good night and good luck. power to the people.
and the bitter truth is that 99.9% of the haters will never, ever even get near to create something so valuable to millions, so creative that it is loved and talked about and argued over up and down the land for decades to come.
good night and good luck. power to the people.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Bless.
You mean "amen"
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Some other songs from the same year -
PJ Harvey - Down by the Water
NIN - Hurt
Porstishead - Sourtimes
Tricky - Black Steel
Open Up - Leftfield
The Prodigy - Their Law
Pulp - Common People
Supergrass - Caught by the Fuzz
So a pretty good year for great tunes - IMHO, but obviously none can hold a candle - in terms of musicality, lyrics, performance, impact or originality - to wonderwall.
PJ Harvey - Down by the Water
NIN - Hurt
Porstishead - Sourtimes
Tricky - Black Steel
Open Up - Leftfield
The Prodigy - Their Law
Pulp - Common People
Supergrass - Caught by the Fuzz
So a pretty good year for great tunes - IMHO, but obviously none can hold a candle - in terms of musicality, lyrics, performance, impact or originality - to wonderwall.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
it's true, but it feels unfair to lump pulp in with that lot of chancers as they'd beena round for a decade already at that point!
Jarvis Cocker was good but had nothing on Liam Gallagher as a front man.
Everyone knows that
maomao
普費斯
Lol. Despite the 4 and a half million album sales and it being regularly on shit radio stations everywhere you're genuinely upset that a small but significant majority of people on a minor bulletin board think it's shit.
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
please provide evidence using a respected measurement of front-manliness.
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