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Wonderwall - opinions

How good is the song 'Wonderwall'?

  • Excellent

    Votes: 17 18.5%

  • Good

    Votes: 15 16.3%

  • Average

    Votes: 18 19.6%

  • Bad

    Votes: 12 13.0%

  • Total shite

    Votes: 30 32.6%
  • Total voters
    92
clcat said:
Easy.


1. JC was a 90's hipster, never wore soccer hooligan clobber unlike Liam.

2. JC always looked like he was in desperate need of a good fish & chip supper inside him.

3. His song "common people" was a sneer at the working class.

4. He would have had his head kicked in if he ever walked down a "common people's" street, even if he was giving away free drugs or fizzy pop.

5. He wasn't Liam Gallagher nor ever was in Oasis.
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On point 3, I'm suspecting you either haven't listened to the lyrics, or you're taking the piss.
 
el-ahrairah said:
i really hated those fucking hats.

every bloke at uni who wanted to appear tough had one of those hats. most of them were alright, until they put the hat on, then they started swaggering about like they're doing gorilla impressions. fucking mental.
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I knew a couple of hip-hop fans who ditched their Kangols in disgust when Brit-Poppers started wearing them.:D
 
The quo criticism is about as hackneyed as oasis's songs (and one the band and their fans embraced - they produced 'quoasis' t-shirts as part of their official merchandise ffs.)
 
killer b said:
The quo criticism is about as hackneyed as oasis's songs (and one the band and their fans embraced - they produced 'quoasis' t-shirts as part of their official merchandise ffs.)
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hackneyed criticism? they were a shit status quo that much is obvious, the fact that they appropriated the whole thing and sold a load of knackers a stack of shit t-shirts means fuck all.
 
killer b said:
The quo criticism is about as hackneyed as oasis's songs (and one the band and their fans embraced - they produced 'quoasis' t-shirts as part of their official merchandise ffs.)
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TBF, Noel Gallagher never made any bones about being more of a rhythm than a lead player, so anyone castigating Oasis for playing "chug-a-lug" tunes probably never read any of their interviews.
 
ViolentPanda said:
TBF, Noel Gallagher never made any bones about being more of a rhythm than a lead player, so anyone castigating Oasis for playing "chug-a-lug" tunes probably never read any of their interviews.
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I'm a totally shit guitar player but having always been quite open about that no-one's allowed to castigate me for it. :cool:
 
ViolentPanda said:
Do you take the Jean-Jacques Burnel approach to not allowing people to criticise (aka donking them on the head)?
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No, I was trying to point out that Gallagher admitting being shit at guitar (or 'more of a rhythm player' as he puts it) is no excuse for the dross that cunt has inflicted on my eardrums over the last two decades.
 
Its awful beyond belief
Bad doggerel based on his "heroes", the Beatles, with fuck all understanding of the language, utter, utter shite
Song and the man
"..........a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."
Excellent summation Mr Shakes-whotsits
 
ouchmonkey said:
fair play but Shakespeare is taking aim at us all there, at the very meaningless of life itself
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Ah, yes,the pointlessness of existence, the empty triumphs of winning glittery shit and picking up rock girlies, etc, always a good theme for the artist
A theme that was never actually addressed by the Shite Brothers at all, they had not the wit to think of anything than grab, grab, grab, greed, stupidity, consume fuck.....
I have met hamsters with a deeper awareness of life.............
 
I like it. I know musically it's nothing special and the lyrics are stupid but it's catchy and it chimes with me. I also don't give a fuck what other people think :)
 
ViolentPanda said:
It's all subjective, and it's always subjective. Music appeals primarily emotionally - it makes us feel happy/sad/uplifted/depressed etc - so how we view particular pieces of music/music and lyrics can't be objective.
Subjectively, I have little feeling about Oasis's output, because their tunes never engaged me emotionally. For me they were background muzak, as was Blur's output. There were too many other bands that did engage me emotionally at the time to spare much attention for the twin peaks of Brit-Pop.
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My argument was that a bands measured success in sales, concerts, awards etc can be objectively measured.

You got the wrong end of the stick there and misquoted me but because I liked your take on music being a subjective form outside of the objectives I've just mentioned, I'm happy to roll with it as you spent some time to say what you say don't let anyone get in your way.

You may be violent by name but I'm guessing pandaing to an audience is not your intention.

Acquiesce ;)
 
clcat said:
My argument was that a bands measured success in sales, concerts, awards etc can be objectively measured.
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Objective based on what? Some bands get decent sales through airplay. That isn't necessarily a mark of quality, only of radio-friendliness. Many people aren't musically adventurous - they buy what they hear.

You got the wrong end of the stick there and misquoted me...
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No, I quoted you. To misquote you, I'd have needed to edit and/or paraphrased you.:)

...but because I liked your take on music being a subjective form outside of the objectives I've just mentioned, I'm happy to roll with it as you spent some time to say what you say don't let anyone get in your way.
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That last line was crap as song lyric, and even worse used as prose.

You may be violent by name but I'm guessing pandaing to an audience is not your intention.

Acquiesce ;)[/QUOTE]

Only when I'm dead.
 
ViolentPanda said:
Objective based on what? Some bands get decent sales through airplay. That isn't necessarily a mark of quality, only of radio-friendliness. Many people aren't musically adventurous - they buy what they hear.
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Objectivity based on sales of their music, number of sell out stadium gigs etc.

These things can be objectively recognised without subjective impressions.

Comments regarding "radio friendliness" and whether people are "musically adventurous" are purely your subjective opinions on attempting to reply to an objective comment.

It doesn't work that way.
 
ViolentPanda said:
If only Cocker had clasped his hands behind his back and whined nasally into a mic, he too could have been a great frontman!
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:hmm:
Every foo knows Joe couldn't sing without his hands

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clcat said:
Objectivity based on sales of their music, number of sell out stadium gigs etc.

These things can be objectively recognised without subjective impressions.

Comments regarding "radio friendliness" and whether people are "musically adventurous" are purely your subjective opinions on attempting to reply to an objective comment.

It doesn't work that way.
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So how's rocky doing?
 
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