Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Why doesn't anyone dance anymore? All these kids just stand there and look at the band, or maybe just hold up a lighter or a phone.
Old fogey opinions on modern popular music amnesty
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nogojones
spelling is overrated
You're going to the wrong nights
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Is disliking MCs an old fogey view? Probably not as I hated MCs 30 years ago. I want the music, not someone talking shite over it
yeah, this is classic fogey
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
This 2018 "party" does look particularly shit
e2a 1990 crew, make some fucking noise
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Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I've wondered if the bands I follow are just shit. Mainly, its house bands from where I work.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I want to sit down at gigs.
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Can you play the drums?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I can. I was, however, meaning gigs I attend rather than ones I perform at. But thinking about it, why the fuck not? Guitars are heavy! I play a Les Paul ffs.
ska invita
back on the other side
hmmm...im not sure about your examples - as i said, of course there'll be new formulas to some extent, but i think they'll only be tweaks on existing stuff - so for example pitching dance music up to the point where its ridiculous (IMO) feels to me like a desperate tactic to "innovate". There was a time before electronic music even existed, not that long ago. When it began it was truly exciting. Thats the shock of the new that wont be happening again. Pitching up electronic music doesn't compare.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Pure old fogeyism!
Glass Animals became the biggest British band in the world
‘Our managers were like: it’s going to be a dud’: how Glass Animals became the biggest British band in the world
The Oxford quartet’s song Heat Waves is the most played globally on Spotify this week, and a curveball amid pop’s solo artists. Frontman Dave Bayley explains how it happenedwww.theguardian.com
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Cool intro to that. Bored after a minute of it though.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
This is an absolute classic, Witney nails it .. especially the second half.
ska invita
back on the other side
interesting video addressing this issue from the Black Music Archive channel - good materialist caseAdvice to all modern pop singers
SING PROPERLY
I hate all this breathy put on crap
Id post an example but it's all of them
(Plus I don't know what any of them are called)
tldw: shutting down of schools music programs in the US + kids not singing in church anymore + the death of the 'chitlin' equivalent low level music career that allowed singers to earn a living without being famous - all adding up to not enough time actually singing and learning the craft and building the muscles - this gen get ffwd to stardom via instagram without developing technique or the chops
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BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
I went clubbing the other night and went into a rant about how the drum and bass playing was too samey and didn’t have enough euphoric cranscendos or some such shit and saw my 41 year old reflection in a mirror whilst I was talking and fogey energy was seen and felt
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Speaking of Drum n Bass use some actual breaks in your tunes and not this abrasive overly compressed digital sounding crap that's everywhere now days.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I’ll take a look at the vid - the “breathy” thing isn’t something I recognise that much compared to the Whitney-wailing and other sub X-factor nonsense that seems to stand in for anything liable to evoke any real feeling.
Billie Eilish is a bit “breathy” at times but I think she has a beautiful voice compared to a lot of the nonsense I hear.
Rihanna also has a lot of character to her voice.
Comparatively, I think male voices in pop have deteriorated more than female voices, though. There is a generic male voice that seems to have taken over a lot of pop that is completely identikit - they sound like the exact same person.
And that person isn’t exactly an abomination, but he’s everywhere. No Robert Smith, Boy George, Bruce Dickinson or Mick Jagger would get a look in with such a one-dimensional template.
Maybe there’s a bit of counter-reaction to all this in things like the young’uns taking to something as weird as Kate Bush, though.
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krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
There's some very distinctive voices around currently, Radie Peat (of Lankum fame), John Francis Flynn, Tolu Makay, of the new(ish) crop.
Could put Moxie in there, with relatively new member Julia Spanu adding amazing vocals to the band. Also, haven't heard enough of; but am loving Strange Boy, Saint Sister, Niamh Regan, Maija Sofia, Sinead O' Brien (shades of Patti Smith and PJ)
(There's Imelda May and Damien Dempsey, a decade or two in and still going strong, both distinctive voices but maybe a bit too oldie to qualify as modern.)
Could put Moxie in there, with relatively new member Julia Spanu adding amazing vocals to the band. Also, haven't heard enough of; but am loving Strange Boy, Saint Sister, Niamh Regan, Maija Sofia, Sinead O' Brien (shades of Patti Smith and PJ)
(There's Imelda May and Damien Dempsey, a decade or two in and still going strong, both distinctive voices but maybe a bit too oldie to qualify as modern.)
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I like Biig Piig's voice - no idea if she's popular with the kids.
We recorded some music the other day and the sound engineer was overwhelmed by gratitude that we could actually play our instruments and sing. He said that he is overwhelmingly now expected to spend a day re-recording one line over and over by people that don’t know technically how to play, and then he is expected to somehow glue these takes together to “make it sound good”. Grrr hurumph how dare they etc etc.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
IIRC Billie Eilish grew up with proper musical training, singing in a choir etc.
Sweet FA
✪ Three rounds Lord, in my .44 ✪
See basically you've pissed on my fireworks there because that's exactly how I assumed it worked and consequently how my dreams of pop stardom are still alive.
ska invita
back on the other side
that is how it works - you can make it!!!
(just refuse to do live shows)
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Bilie eilish aside, the the problem is too many stage school trained singers. They all tend to sound the same.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Biig Piig is fair pushing the tunes out. Still liking her, a lot!
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I’m back to complain a bit more about auto tune. Even singers who don’t need it use it. It’s an effect choice, like too much flange on the vocals in the late 60s. I hope it dies out soon, because I find it jarring. I’ll allow a little if there’s merit in the rest of the song. But it’s horrible when the voice is tuned to a computer but the instruments are using tempered tuning. Pianos, for example, are deliberately tuned slightly sharp in the bass range and slightly flat in the high range. But auto tuners ignore that, whereas a skilled singer with a good (human) ear wouldn’t.
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