Wonderwall - opinions

[kabbes]

Hating's more fun.

Tell us what you love so that we can all have a go at hating it then. Share the fun!

 

[clcat]

117 posts in 5 days and fitting straight in? I'm asking what your previous ID was on these boards.

None, have you drank much this morning?

 

[maomao]

Tell us what you love so that we can all have a go at hating it then. Share the fun!

Another time maybe. Heading out at 12.

 

[maomao]

None, have you drank much this morning?

Yes, 3 coffees and 2 lots of tramadol.

 

[clcat]

Yes, 3 coffees and 2 lots of tramadol.

Explains a lot

 

[butchersapron]

here's something i am just going to make up to annoy people further.

it's 199whatever. the great british public are sat at home watching MTV and wonderwall comes on. i would have a bet that a whopping 80% of under 30 year olds stopped and thought, "that's a good song." and watched it through. across class lines, across lines of education, from the posh twat at oxford to the lonely suffering herion addict, from the crusty grunge kid to the gurning acid house kid, they would have stopped what they were doing and thought, "that's a fucking good track."

not many rock groups can or have done that.

a classic tune, a great rock and roll track of our times.

1995 - the year of wonderwall, the biggest selling british working class act (both LP and singles) was Robson and Jerome. The year before (Oasis' debut LP/single year) it was Wet Wet Wet, East 17, The Beautiful south and the fucking beatles.

 

[clcat]

1995 - the year of wonderwall, the biggest selling british working class act (both LP and singles) was Robson and Jerome. The year before (Oasis' debut LP/single year) it was Wet Wet Wet, East 17, The Beautiful south and the fucking beatles.

I'd rather listen to Oasis than others you mention.

Nice stats though

 

[ouchmonkey]

Hard to believe people can rip so hard into a genuine quality home grown working class boys come good band.
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welcome to the music forum

 

[SpookyFrank]

Listening to it now. The vocal is a horrid, tuneless mess.

I like the drums though. But it's a long way short of being their best tune. They did B sides that were better.

 

[kabbes]

1995 - the year of wonderwall, the biggest selling british working class act (both LP and singles) was Robson and Jerome. The year before (Oasis' debut LP/single year) it was Wet Wet Wet, East 17, The Beautiful south and the fucking beatles.

Note, though, that nobody is still buying or radio-playing Robson & Jerome or East 17. And I certainly haven't come across Wet Wet Wet or the Beautiful South for years (although I'm willing to bet somebody has).

Success at the time is one thing, but continued success 20 years on is something else's entirely.

 

[ouchmonkey]

I'm not a fan. At all. I think they had more interesting songs but weirdly there does seem to be something about Wonderwall that has a broad appeal

 

[butchersapron]

Note, though, that nobody is still buying or radio-playing Robson & Jerome or East 17. And I certainly haven't come across Wet Wet Wet or the Beautiful South for years (although I'm willing to bet somebody has).

Success at the time is one thing, but continued success 20 years on is something else's entirely.

He was talking about that specific year not 20 years later.

And who the hell is playing oasis now anyway?

 

[kabbes]

He was talking about that specific year not 20 years later.

And who the hell is playing oasis now anyway?

The original argument concerned a quote about it still being played today, which it is. I certainly still hear it on the radio from time to time.

Particularly on Absolute Radio 90s...

 

[butchersapron]

have we also got this far into this without mentioning that Noel sings it because Liam thought it was bollocks and refused?

I'm not a fan. At all. I think they had more interesting songs but weirdly there does seem to be something about Wonderwall that has a broad appeal

It's the non-committal lyrics based around a sense of dialectical opposites us/them, persecution/defiance etc and the overcoming of these in a synthesis ("You're gonna be the one that saves me") which allows listeners to apply to almost every single situation they are going through, remembering, fearing etc.

 

[Orang Utan]

The original argument concerned a quote about it still being played today, which it is. I certainly still hear it on the radio from time to time.

Particularly on Absolute Radio 90s...

LOL you also hear the Soup Dragons and Candy Flip. Who I'd much rather hear than Oasis...

 

[butchersapron]

The original argument concerned a quote about it still being played today, which it is. I certainly still hear it on the radio from time to time.

Particularly on Absolute Radio 90s...

Nah it was concerned specifically with the year wonderwall came out and its reception there and then.

 

[clcat]

Listening to it now. The vocal is a horrid, tuneless mess.

I like the drums though. But it's a long way short of being their best tune. They did B sides that were better.

Yes, Oasis have some excellent b sides that put other bands a sides to shame.

http://live4ever.proboards.com/thread/45173/list-all-oasis-bsides

 

[kabbes]

Nah it was concerned specifically with the year wonderwall came out and its reception there and then.

But that post is in a thread about hearing it on the radio right now.

And it came off the back of an argument in which another poster remarked that it must be good because it is still attracting sales and listens today.

So yes, that post is about the time it came out, but context, man!

 

[clcat]

LOL you also hear the Soup Dragons and Candy Flip. Who I'd much rather hear than Oasis...

Of course Oasis aren't the only good band from back then

 

[killer b]

High quality trolling from clcat. Well played.

 

[kabbes]

It's an extraordinary coincidence that the best period for popular music happens to coincide perfectly with me being between the ages of 15 and 22. I guess I was just lucky that way.

 

[clcat]

High quality trolling from clcat. Well played.

I'm a troll because I like Wonderwall and Oasis as a band

What's going on here?

 

[killer b]

Oh, come on. 10 pages.

 

[clcat]

I'm sensing blur fans arriving

 

[butchersapron]

I'm sensing blur fans arriving

Move on with your life.

 

[andysays]

It's the non-committal lyrics based around a sense of dialectical opposites us/them, persecution/defiance etc and the overcoming of these in a synthesis ("You're gonna be the one that saves me") which allows listeners to apply to almost every single situation they are going through, remembering, fearing etc.

As no member of Oasis said, ever (but probably true despite that)...

Anyway, it's a pretty good song, but not as great as Noel thinks it is and not as crap as some of the haters are saying.

 

[clcat]

As no member of Oasis said, ever (but probably true despite that)...

Anyway, it's a pretty good song, but not as great as Noel thinks it is and not as crap as some of the haters are saying.

Agreed.

There's worse lyrics from other bands out there.

 

[billy_bob]

Who said a lyric has to mean anything when it was written?

That's fine. I love Adam and the Ants' Apollo 9, for example. It's the faux-meaningfulness of Oasis that really grates.

The music's awful turgid lad-rock shite too.

 

[el-ahrairah]

Apollo9 is a great tune.

 

[youngian]

Noel Gallagher messes around with a tune he likes by Slade, Beatles etc and incorporates them as the basis of an Oasis number. He's open about that but he's rather proud of Wonderwall as an original composition. Maybe