Will you continue using a face mask after 19 July?

[farmerbarleymow]

I don't understand why people start petitions on these sort of sites, they just get totally ignored.

At least they look at & respond to those set-up on the petition parliament site:

Petitions - UK Government and Parliament

petition.parliament.uk

Same here - I tend not to sign them because of that. Don't know why people don't start them on the government site in the first place - I think anyone can start one if they want.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Not him, but I'm not sure I do. I think things like public transport, public services like libraries, and shops are very different as people don't really have much of a choice to avoid them, but with pubs and clubs and gigs it's much easier to avoid if you take that decision to lessen your own risk.

Yeah, that's my position, but at the same time, the people who work in pubs and clubs don't have a choice to avoid...

 

[cupid_stunt]

Yeah, that's my position, but at the same time, the people who work in pubs and clubs don't have a choice to avoid...

Agreed, but it's impossible to eat or drink wearing a mask.

 

[Orang Utan]

Out of interest, do you think people should have to wear masks in pubs and clubs and to gigs? (I'm guessing so.)

yes, though i don’t think indoor clubs and gigs should be happening just yet

 

[Orang Utan]

Not him, but I'm not sure I do. I think things like public transport, public services like libraries, and shops are very different as people don't really have much of a choice to avoid them, but with pubs and clubs and gigs it's much easier to avoid if you take that decision to lessen your own risk.

unless you work in one

 

[wtfftw]

I don't understand why people start petitions on these sort of sites, they just get totally ignored.

At least they look at & respond to those set-up on the petition parliament site:

Petitions - UK Government and Parliament

petition.parliament.uk

Yeah for this I'm not sure organise can do much really but the parliament petition wouldn't have a quick enough turnaround time.

 

[MickiQ]

Same here - I tend not to sign them because of that. Don't know why people don't start them on the government site in the first place - I think anyone can start one if they want.

Does the Cabinet ever actually even see petitions on things like change.org or organise? At the end of day they have no more legal status than one passed around in the pub (remember when we had such things?) and unless someone tells Boris that there is such a petition he'll never even know (and we know he doesn't care). The official parliamentary ones at least someone does look and presumably tells the appropriate minister that x number of people care about y.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Agreed, but it's impossible to eat or drink wearing a mask.

Yup. And apart from that I think they would just destroy any atmosphere. Maybe they do need to look at only admitting people who have been double vaccinated, at least in the short term.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Ordered some FFP2 masks - better safe than sorry.

Absolutely would not go back to the crappy blue ones after using KN95s (which are an equivalent standard to ffp2). Just way better in all respects - tougher, better seal, glasses steam up less.

 

[Steel Icarus]

The maskless numbers in my local supermarkets are picking up. It's like the announcement was sufficient - perhaps two weeks was too long to wait ...
It's a shock to see more and more of my local Aldi staff maskless - and today it wasn't "just" shelf-stackers, but today it was someone vocally directing people to the self-service tills ..

Yeah, last night in my local Aldi there were four customers without masks out of maybe 12 customers that I could see, and none of the staff had masks on.

 

[thismoment]

A couple of days last week I found myself to be only one adult wearing a mask in some indoor spaces at work and I’ll admit that I felt very awkward

 

[krtek a houby]

A couple of days last week I found myself to be only one adult wearing a mask in some indoor spaces at work and I’ll admit that I felt very awkward

Still, better than feeling infected.

 

[LDC]

I'm at work today and there's a committed non-mask wearer there, despite having been told by management more than once (she's anti-vax and borderline covid denier from what I've heard her say). I've been really careful the last ten days so tomorrow I can go and see some elderly folks for a few days at a lower risk level. I'm going to be really very pissed off if she's swanning about the building without a mask again.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I had missed this, from a couple of weeks ago, but Israel has reintroduced a requirement to wear masks indoors, despite their vaccination programme being ahead of the UK, thanks to the delta variant their average daily new cases has gone from 16 to 452 in a month, whereas in the same period we have gone from 6,556 to 30,144.

Coronavirus: Israel reimposes masks amid new virus fears

It comes just days after the last restriction was lifted, as concerns grow over a spate of cases.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[bimble]

i cant even comment on this, just read it, what the hell are we doing.

‘Their childhood has been stolen’: calls for action to tackle long Covid

MPs and peers demand review of debilitating condition as fears grow of surge among young after 19 July lifting

www.theguardian.com

 

[cupid_stunt]

Common sense to prevail in Wales, and no doubt Scotland too.

In Wales, masks must still be worn in taxis, on trains and buses, as well as health and social care settings when coronavirus restrictions are eased, the Welsh government said.

It added that "active further consideration" is being given to whether they will still be required by law in other settings, like retail.

First Minister Mark Drakeford said: "We will need everyone's help to keep coronavirus under control as we continue to respond to the pandemic - this virus has quite certainly not gone away.

Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is due to announce her country's next steps out of lockdown on Tuesday, but
has already described Mr Johnson's approach as "something of an exception", appearing to indicate hers will be more cautious.

In Northern Ireland, the removal of rules around all face coverings, with regulations potentially replaced by guidance, are due to be considered next month.

Will you continue using a face mask after 19 July?

I don't understand why people start petitions on these sort of sites, they just get totally ignored. At least they look at & respond to those set-up on the petition parliament site: https://petition.parliament.uk Same here - I tend not to sign them because of that. Don't know why people...

www.urban75.net

 

[Doctor Carrot]

I'm at work today and there's a committed non-mask wearer there, despite having been told by management more than once (she's anti-vax and borderline covid denier from what I've heard her say). I've been really careful the last ten days so tomorrow I can go and see some elderly folks for a few days at a lower risk level. I'm going to be really very pissed off if she's swanning about the building without a mask again.

She will definitely be swanning about without a mask again.

 

[LDC]

It's really hard to know how to deal with it. It's been noted by a few other people at work as well. I did talk to her a month or two back which was when I realised she was a conspiracy person. It's been brought to the attention of management twice. I also chatted to her line manager who said she knew and had told her repeatedly, but she still doesn't wear one.

 

[Thora]

So, masks are back on..?

People ‘expected’ to wear face masks in enclosed public spaces after 19 July under new guidance, vaccines minister says

Government ‘confident’ legal restrictions can be lifted on 19 July, minister adds

www.independent.co.uk

 

[cupid_stunt]

So, masks are back on..?

People ‘expected’ to wear face masks in enclosed public spaces after 19 July under new guidance, vaccines minister says

Government ‘confident’ legal restrictions can be lifted on 19 July, minister adds

www.independent.co.uk

Looks like it's only going to be advice, and will not be legally binding, about as dumb as it could get.

 

[Badgers]

Useless murdering cunt shop of a government

 

[Orang Utan]

So, masks are back on..?

People ‘expected’ to wear face masks in enclosed public spaces after 19 July under new guidance, vaccines minister says

Government ‘confident’ legal restrictions can be lifted on 19 July, minister adds

www.independent.co.uk

oh great, looking forward to telling customers that i ‘expect’ them to still wear a mask

 

[Orang Utan]

It's really hard to know how to deal with it. It's been noted by a few other people at work as well. I did talk to her a month or two back which was when I realised she was a conspiracy person. It's been brought to the attention of management twice. I also chatted to her line manager who said she knew and had told her repeatedly, but she still doesn't wear one.

shouldn’t it be a disciplinary issue?

 

[LDC]

shouldn’t it be a disciplinary issue?

I guess, but think it's probably a complicated one, and also think management are probably understandably avoiding it tbh. Bonkers though, healthcare setting and we're struggling with sickness anyway, she could in theory close the place down with her actions. Especially as if she's not mask wearing as I expect that means she's probably not following any other guidance either.

 

[Orang Utan]

I guess, but think it's probably a complicated one, and also think management are probably understandably avoiding it tbh. Bonkers though, healthcare setting and we're struggling with sickness anyway, she could in theory close the place down with her actions. Especially as if she's not mask wearing as I expect that means she's probably not following any other guidance either.

you could perhaps band together with colleagues and tell management that you won’t work with her unless she dons a mask?

 

[Badgers]

I guess, but think it's probably a complicated one, and also think management are probably understandably avoiding it tbh. Bonkers though, healthcare setting and we're struggling with sickness anyway, she could in theory close the place down with her actions. Especially as if she's not mask wearing as I expect that means she's probably not following any other guidance either.

Just key their car or shit in their lunch

 

[Doctor Carrot]

you could perhaps band together with colleagues and tell management that you won’t work with her unless she dons a mask?

This. In hindsight I wish I'd walked out first lockdown and said I'm not coming back to work unless you put screens up and stop people entering without masks.

If something similar can be done with regards to the mask less conspiracy fuck nut then do it.

 

[elbows]

So, masks are back on..?

People ‘expected’ to wear face masks in enclosed public spaces after 19 July under new guidance, vaccines minister says

Government ‘confident’ legal restrictions can be lifted on 19 July, minister adds

www.independent.co.uk

The fucking idiotic government appear to be nervous that they've misjudged the public mood and that their freedom rhetoric is a reckless multiplier of relaxed attitudes.

Assuming there is a press conference to accompany tomorrows announcements, the mixed messages are, like last week, bound to be farcical and desperate.

 

[StoneRoad]

Having considered the situation again (as I do on a frequent basis) I'm going to keep wearing my good FFP2 mask in places it is necessary to protect others and myself (and the members of my household).
Such as shops, at work, in crowded places (especially indoors) and on public transport.
We've gone back onto on-line food shopping [with the exception of milk, which will be bought locally as keeping a week's supply cold in the summer is difficult even with two fridges and two freezers].
And our planned trips to places of interest / cafes & pubs etc are going to be postponed until the case rate drops back to a sensible [low] level.
OH has been tutoring our great-niece, but that is also postponed for a while [that household was shielding].

I have at least two trips away for work booked within the next few weeks and I can't, thanks to BoJo's "freedom day" shite, really call them off, yet again. I'll just have to take extra, extra precautions ...

 

[scalyboy]

I guess, but think it's probably a complicated one, and also think management are probably understandably avoiding it tbh. Bonkers though, healthcare setting and we're struggling with sickness anyway, she could in theory close the place down with her actions. Especially as if she's not mask wearing as I expect that means she's probably not following any other guidance either.

Extremely frustrating situation - sounds to me too like it should be a disciplinary matter but if management are shying away from that, is there any chance of union involvement? Is this person in a union and if so, is it the same union as you and other colleagues, so could there be a union ‘sit-down’ and attempt to mediate / persuade them?