Why the lib-dems are shit

[brogdale]

R4 report that LDs confirm that Carmichael will face no internal party disciplinary procedure as a result of his deception. They went to say that he had taken responsibility for the behaviour himself and forgone £17k severance pay.

How principled. Sounds like the party are not too keen to see anyone question whether or not anyone else in the party knew what Carmichael was up to. Hmmm

 

[Belushi]

They've learnt fuck all, they're heading the way of the dodo.

 

[weepiper]

Not one of the English papers has this story on their front page. Unlike the original 'leak' lie. Also a lot of Labour politicians were very quick to jump on the story when it broke yet are curiously silent about it now And David Mundell (our only Tory) as Under-Secretary of State for Scotland must surely have known about it too.

 

[killer b]

They don't have any staff left to do the investigation too, perhaps?

 

[brogdale]

I'd like to see Crick doorstep Clegg to ask him how much he knew about the lie/leak. It would be great to see him lie through his teeth..just one more time.

 

[danny la rouge]

Not one of the English papers has this story on their front page. Unlike the original 'leak' lie. Also a lot of Labour politicians were very quick to jump on the story when it broke yet are curiously silent about it now And David Mundell (our only Tory) as Under-Secretary of State for Scotland must surely have known about it too.

And it took a long time for the BBC to add in the phrase from the "apology" letter that Carmichael now admits that "the details of that account are not correct". They have now added it to their web story, but neither the 6 o'clock nor the 10 o'clock news used the phrase or referred to it, and Reporting Scotland even managed to imply that the story might still be true, despite showing the letter on screen. Snidey bastards.

 

[danny la rouge]

Crick and Alex Thomson were both quick to notice that phrase and to report that the memo was therefore, ah, inaccurate. But neither, to my knowledge, has asked Carmichael *when* he knew that "the details of the account [were] not correct". Did he know the details were not correct when he leaked the account?

His circumlocution in the letter and his interviews suggests he did.

 

[danny la rouge]

Simon Johnson of the Telegraph has also been quiet. Did he know the details were not correct when he ran the story? I suggest he did, because he did not ask either Sturgeon or Sylvie Berman for comment before running the story.

But he did find time to ask Willie Rennie for comment. *Willie Rennie*.

 

[ViolentPanda]

And it took a long time for the BBC to add in the phrase from the "apology" letter that Carmichael now admits that "the details of that account are not correct". They have now added it to their web story, but neither the 6 o'clock nor the 10 o'clock news used the phrase or referred to it, and Reporting Scotland even managed to imply that the story might still be true, despite showing the letter on screen. Snidey bastards.

"Dear Alistair,
get away tae fuck, ya nasty wee bastard!

Yours cordially
etc"

 

[weepiper]

 

[teqniq]

Nothing like a bit of old-fashioned 'in denial'

Nick Clegg's strategist evaluates Lib Dem defeat: 'We got routed by the Fear'

 

[nino_savatte]

R4 report that LDs confirm that Carmichael will face no internal party disciplinary procedure as a result of his deception. They went to say that he had taken responsibility for the behaviour himself and forgone £17k severance pay.

How principled. Sounds like the party are not too keen to see anyone question whether or not anyone else in the party knew what Carmichael was up to. Hmmm

Par for the course with the Lib Dems. Mike Hancock? Lord Rennard?

 

[DotCommunist]

ah wandering hands rennard. How quickly I forgot him.

 

[billy_bob]

This is real:

POLITICAL CAMPAIGNING MASTERCLASS

Nice use of one of stand-up comedian Nick Helm's catchphrases, intentional or otherwise. His comedic persona is that of a man on the edge of personal collapse, living in denial and trying to paper over his inadequacy in his chosen medium with increasingly desperate-sounding feigned confidence. He should be leading this course.

 

[nino_savatte]

ah wandering hands rennard. How quickly I forgot him.

Easily done. They're such non-entities.

 

[weepiper]

It says 'truth'

 

[Belushi]

 

[weepiper]

 

[butchersapron]

More on that

 

[Belushi]

I didn't realise he can be recalled..

If MPs were to vote to suspend Carmichael for 10 days or more, this would then automatically trigger a new process under the Recall of MPs Act (championed by Nick Clegg): if at least 10% of Carmichael’s constituents sign a petition calling for a byelection, then one must be held.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...democrats-byelection-threat-leak-snp-sturgeon

 

[brogdale]

I didn't realise he can be recalled..



http://www.theguardian.com/politics...democrats-byelection-threat-leak-snp-sturgeon

That'll be a 9 day ban, then?

 

[Belushi]

That'll be a 9 day ban, then?

It depends on whether the tories want to kick their ex-partners while they're down. Given that these are tories were talking about..

 

[brogdale]

It depends on whether the tories want to kick their ex-partners while they're down. Given that these are tories were talking about..

Given the proximity of Mundell to this steaming pile of excrement...I'd guess they rather the story be closed down. And anyway, none of them want another nationalist in place.

 

[Libertad]

Could the SNP not take this to the Electoral Commission?

 

[Threshers_Flail]

Could the SNP not take this to the Electoral Commission?

This. I can't see them letting this one die down, there's a lot of political capital to be made from it.

 

[brogdale]

This. I can't see them letting this one die down, there's a lot of political capital to be made from it.

without a doubt. especially if they can drag Mundell into it. Clean sweep possible.

 

[weepiper]

If Carmichael doesn't stand down now it's curtains for Tavish Scott next year.

 

[brogdale]

If Carmichael doesn't stand down now it's curtains for Tavish Scott next year.

Prospects can't have been good, regardless of Carmichael, surely?

 

[redsquirrel]

This. I can't see them letting this one die down, there's a lot of political capital to be made from it.

Be interesting to see what Labour do, as with the Mundell link you might think that they have a opportunity to gain something too, but I bet you they line up with the Cons/LDs.

 

[brogdale]

Malcolm Bruce on R4 'Today' programme defends Carmichael by saying that all politicians lie, so it's OK...