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Why the lib-dems are shit

We now have the surreal spectacle of the leader of the SNP correctly explaining how the constitutional procedures of the UK parliament works against a Lib-Dem leader who also suddenly doesn't understand how multi-party politics work. And a Unionist Tory PM who has conducted a UK GE campaign based on crude English nationalism. You could almost excuse Cameron as he's an inept lightwieght but constitutional issues are a Lib Dem raison d'etre and Clegg is simply a lying weasel.

Here's Clegg doing his being a sport schtick and reading insulting Tweets. But if you type Clegg and cunt into Twitter you will see 100s Tweets he's neglected to mention
 
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I don't see how Clegg's pro-Tory preference announcements would help most Lib Dems hanging on to their seats. But it seems to be working for the odd Lib Dem candidate though

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Anyone mentioned Vince Cable getting cold feet about the Employment Tribunal fees system that he introduced? Well, he is - and rightly so. Part time workers (ie mostly women) disproportionately affected of course but in addition ET claims are down by about 70% indicating that the fees system is a barrier to justice (who'd'a thought it etc etc). Anyway, he's trying to shift the blame to Chris Grayling who didn't carry out a review after the first year as promised. Fucking weasels.
 
Anyone mentioned Vince Cable getting cold feet about the Employment Tribunal fees system that he introduced? Well, he is - and rightly so. Part time workers (ie mostly women) disproportionately affected of course but in addition ET claims are down by about 70% indicating that the fees system is a barrier to justice (who'd'a thought it etc etc). Anyway, he's trying to shift the blame to Chris Grayling who didn't carry out a review after the first year as promised. Fucking weasels.
Luckily down in Richmond they have a nationally respected anti-Tory candidate who has been speaking out against ET fees that he introduced
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In the light of the possibility of another LibDem/Tory coalition, perhaps it is time that the LibDem Party be made illegal. They are nothing but a nuisance in election terms both at local level and nationally. The LibDems are of no use whatsoever. All they do is to confuse people about the political situation. Voters need clear choices not muddy messages without any political values. The LibDems just play games especially where there is a tight contest. They have no values, just a mechanistic ruthless ambition to steal votes from other parties without having anything substantial to offer voters.

It might seem a bit drastic to ban a party, but there are limits to the games that a party can be allowed to play.Their helping to rescue the Tories at the last election should have been the last straw. If they are allowed to do it again they will be insulting the electorate. I would not normally want to ban any party but the LibDems have just made a mockery out of the whole electoral process at both local and national levels. There should be rules that prevent the games LibDems play. They need not be banned if they play by those yet to be created rules.

Yes outlaw the LibDems, everyone knows about their graphs distorting and depicted poll information. We have all seen their histograms "proving" that x or y party "cannot win here". It is just ordure and it stinks. Their worst offence of course is their supporting of the Tories who did not win the last election but carried on as if they had.
 
In the light of the possibility of another LibDem/Tory coalition, perhaps it is time that the LibDem Party be made illegal. They are nothing but a nuisance in election terms both at local level and nationally. The LibDems are of no use whatsoever. All they do is to confuse people about the political situation. Voters need clear choices not muddy messages without any political values. The LibDems just play games especially where there is a tight contest. They have no values, just a mechanistic ruthless ambition to steal votes from other parties without having anything substantial to offer voters.

It might seem a bit drastic to ban a party, but there are limits to the games that a party can be allowed to play.Their helping to rescue the Tories at the last election should have been the last straw. If they are allowed to do it again they will be insulting the electorate. I would not normally want to ban any party but the LibDems have just made a mockery out of the whole electoral process at both local and national levels. There should be rules that prevent the games LibDems play. They need not be banned if they play by those yet to be created rules.
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Yes outlaw the LibDems, everyone knows about their graphs distorting and depicted poll information. We have all seen their histograms "proving" that x or y party "cannot win here". It is just ordure and it stinks. Their worst offence of course is their supporting of the Tories who did not win the last election but carried on as if they had.

The have very firmly held ideological views.
 
I don't see how Clegg's pro-Tory preference announcements would help most Lib Dems hanging on to their seats. But it seems to be working for the odd Lib Dem candidate though

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Clegg could possibly hang on true, but check some recent posts on the Political polling thread -- that particular poll (in today's Guardian, and given far too much headline publicity there :hmm: ) has some serious methodological flaws.
 
Richard Dawkins is a proper mug


My friend, also lives in Oxford West, last time voted 'tactically' for the Lib Dems to keep the Tories out (he was never particularly leftie at all!) -- and he failed -- Evan Harris, former LD MP, was defeated by a (blue) Tory by a small margin.

But now, even though the margin is really tight, my friend will be voting Labour simply out of pissed- off-ness at the LD's record with the Tories since 2010. He'll not alone in the area either.

Dawkins could well be a lot out of line with most in that area.
 
My friend, also lives in Oxford West, last time voted 'tactically' for the Lib Dems to keep the Tories out (he was never particularly leftie at all!) -- and he failed -- Evan Harris, former LD MP, was defeated by a (blue) Tory by a small margin.

But now, even though the margin is really tight, my friend will be voting Labour simply out of pissed- off-ness at the LD's record with the Tories since 2010. He'll not alone in the area either.

Dawkins could well be a lot out of line with most in that area.

I had some time for Evan Harris back then, he was one of the quite sciency ones, wound up some of the fundie Christian nutters.
 
I'll have to put up with Simon Hughes losing his then ... after 33 years :D

(A bit more likely then Clegg going, given London polling suggesting a stronger pro-Labour swing in parts of the capital than elsewhere)
 
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