Why the Green Party is shit

[DotCommunist]

seems their canadian brethren do no better:
The Hard Green Line

 

[redsquirrel]

Twats

 

[Tom A]

Our Green Party also has a less-than-illustrious record when it comes to trade union support. This is from their 2010 manifesto:

[The Green Party will] bring in a fair system of state funding for political parties so there’s no longer a need for reliance on private and trade union donations, which can have a corrupting effect.

Source: https://www.greenparty.org.uk/assets/files/resources/Manifesto_web_file.pdf

Then there was the mishandling of the bin workers' dispute in Brighton when they controlled the council.

 

[butchersapron]

Got it all this one:

Looks like yet another Green Party councillor’s PUBLIC pronouncements on housing don’t quite match his PRIVATE arrangements.

An irate ACORN tenants union member calls to tell us that the Green Party Councillor for Southville, Bristol Pound bigwig and er, ACORN tenants union member Stephen “Daddy” Clarke, has EVICTED a tenant from one of his numerous local buy-to-let investments after the tenant told him that his rent increase of 28 per cent was unaffordable!

 

[J Ed]

 

[Sea Star]

Green party membership card is plastic and looks a looks a lot harder to recycle than the cardboard tory ones - though equally surprisingly probably better for chopping up coke.



(I own neither)

as far as i know the green Party doesn't issue membership cards. I haven't been sent one in years and when i did - nearly a decade ago - it was papery i seem to remember.

 

[gosub]

as far as i know the green Party doesn't issue membership cards. I haven't been sent one in years and when i did - nearly a decade ago - it was papery i seem to remember.

Was in pub between two party members iirc

 

[Sea Star]

Was in pub between two party members iirc

i went to conference a few years ago and i asked because i'd not been issued with a card and i was told GP doesn't issue cards so I don;t know what they had. Have not seen anyone with a card either - not for years.

 

[SpackleFrog]

In defence of Tories:

Worcester Green Party

 

[redsquirrel]

Spotted by elbows from the local elections thread.

I also note that the green councillor, who only got elected in the first place some years back due to NIMBY house-building issues in tory estates that are on the posh side of the tracks here, abstained on the leader vote and voted for the tory for the deputy leader position.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Bullshit thread. Caroline Lucas one of the few MPs to speak out against arms sales to Israel.

 

[Santino]

Bullshit thread. Caroline Lucas one of the few MPs to speak out against arms sales to Israel.

How do you feel about her anti-worker activities?

 

[Johnny Vodka]

How do you feel about her anti-worker activities?

If you're talking about wanting to stop UK arms companies selling weapons to dodgy regimes, I'm fine with that... but maybe you can tell me what you had in mind?

 

[J Ed]

Bullshit thread. Caroline Lucas one of the few MPs to speak out against arms sales to Israel.

Bizarre comment. Thread title, and content, is not 'Why Caroline Lucas' position on arms sales to Israel is shit'.

 

[Santino]

If you're talking about wanting to stop UK arms companies selling weapons to dodgy regimes, I'm fine with that... but maybe you can tell me what you had in mind?

How do you feel about Caroline Lucas undermining the attempts of workers to strike for better pay and conditions?

 

[Johnny Vodka]

How do you feel about Caroline Lucas undermining the attempts of workers to strike for better pay and conditions?

Link to story?

 

[emanymton]

Link to story?

Or you could, oh I don't know. Maybe read the op of the thread you are posting on.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Or you could, oh I don't know. Maybe read the op of the thread you are posting on.

Maybe i will, tomorrow. I forgot urban only accepts Labour voters. Personally, i think environmental issues are hugely important, in that there's an enormous kick back against humans if the environment isn't a priority in the agenda, and shit gets worse for us all in the long run. So the Greens are just one party i'd consider voting for depending on their policies coming up to an election..

 

[emanymton]

I forgot urban only accepts Labour voters

Fucking hell seriously. Maybe you should try reading some of what is posted on here beyond just the op.

 

[redsquirrel]

Maybe i will, tomorrow. I forgot urban only accepts Labour voters.

Of course it does.

 

[chilango]

Maybe i will, tomorrow. I forgot urban only accepts Labour voters. Personally, i think environmental issues are hugely important, in that there's an enormous kick back against humans if the environment isn't a priority in the agenda, and shit gets worse for us all in the long run. So the Greens are just one party i'd consider voting for depending on their policies coming up to an election..

Seriously???

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Seriously???

Which bit?

 

[chilango]

Which bit?

This bit.

I forgot urban only accepts Labour voters. Personally, i think environmental issues are hugely important,

 

[Johnny Vodka]

This bit.

Environmental issues aren't hugely important?

 

[chilango]

Environmental issues aren't hugely important?

No, I mean your assumption that criticizing the Greens means that we think not.

 

[stethoscope]

Have the Green party ever been that central to fighting environmental issues beyond general concerns (genuine question)? Whenever I think of environmental stuff I always think of radical direct action and eco-activist groups as the ones that have always led this stuff and eventually it sifts slowly through to policies being adopted by Green, Labour, Dem even Tory parties.

 

[Plumdaff]

Have the Green party ever been that central to fighting environmental issues beyond general concerns (genuine question)? Whenever I think of environmental stuff I always think of radical direct action and eco-activist groups as the ones that have always led this stuff and eventually it sifts slowly through to policies being adopted by Green, Labour, Dem even Tory parties.

When I was in the Greens, a far few people on the left of the party were active in stuff like Climate Camp, Kingsnorth etc. I still know some Greens involved in anti fracking stuff. A lot of the most active people have (like me) left over the last 10 years to either other left groups, Labour since Corbyn, general eco activism without a party or inactivity. Tbf there's a fair few current or ex members who have faced or got arrested on various environmental protests down the years. There are also some snobby'buy organic' lifestyle twats as well, of course.

 

[Rob Ray]

How do you feel about Caroline Lucas undermining the attempts of workers to strike for better pay and conditions?

Much as the Green council in Brighton was predictably shit on the bin strikes, iirc Lucas herself visited the pickets and pledged to support them. Major split in Green Party as Caroline Lucas joins Brighton wildcat strike

 

[elbows]

Have the Green party ever been that central to fighting environmental issues beyond general concerns (genuine question)? Whenever I think of environmental stuff I always think of radical direct action and eco-activist groups as the ones that have always led this stuff and eventually it sifts slowly through to policies being adopted by Green, Labour, Dem even Tory parties.

And the spectacle of the Daily Mail claiming to be leading the fight against plastic waste!

 

[sihhi]

Green candidate MP for Bath

attacks anyone who doesn't want a to keep Britain in EU

I have absolutely no respect for anyone who says the result should be ‘respected’. Anyone who accepts it is basically supporting fraudulent elections and criminals.