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Why the Green Party is shit

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http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk...yorkshire-due-to-crisis-leader-says-1-7111864

Membership of the Green party in Sheffield and Rotherham has tripled in a year because other parties ‘do not have the answers’, leader Natalie Bennett has said.

Membership of the Green party in Sheffield and Rotherham has tripled in a year because other parties ‘do not have the answers’, leader Natalie Bennett has said.

The Green party leader, who is not an MP, yesterday met PhD students researching global food security at the University of Sheffield and gave a speech at St George’s Lecture Theatre.

Today local Green parties have announced membership has risen from around 300 people to 1,000 in a year.

Ms Bennett said: “This reflects an increase around the country but it is very much that people are looking for a positive answer.

“They are looking at the other political parties and think there is no answer to the economic, social and environmental crisis that we are facing.”

The party is hoping to secure its first northern MP - and its second in the country - in Sheffield Central, where former GP and current city councillor Jillian Creasy is standing in May.
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Spanky Longhorn said:
apart from being a Green what are your issues with her?
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Very arrogant. Also once heard her make one of the worst speeches I've ever heard entitled 'emasculate capitalism' where she used loads of castration imagery to basically argue that capitalism would be nicer with women at the top or something. I'm not in Sheffield any more but I someone was saying something a bit back about dodgy comments about benefits too - can't remember exactly what it was but I think it might have been J Ed or treelover who mentioned it.

She - and her fellow Green members - also argued heavily against the sheffield save the libraries campaign taking a position of no cuts to libraries. And when they lost the vote they still went along to stalls etc and demanded that we defy the democratic decision of the campiagn because no cuts was 'unfair on the council'.

She's a doctor and therefore far cleverer than everyone else and has the classic Green paternalistic 'we know what's best for the proles' outlook.
 
I was going to vote Green this year, I've met the local candidate is he's a very nice chap. Given the Conservatives get more than 50% of the vote here it's no more than a token vote. However; I am disappointed that they see to be defocusing o the environment, which is what attracts me to them.

I'm all for social housing, fair pay etc but the Labour Party say the same as the Greens and actually have a chance to get in - so if you cared about that why wouldn't you vote Labour who have very similar policies?
 
bemused said:
I was going to vote Green this year, I've met the local candidate is he's a very nice chap. Given the Conservatives get more than 50% of the vote here it's no more than a token vote. However; I am disappointed that they see to be defocusing o the environment, which is what attracts me to them.

I'm all for social housing, fair pay etc but the Labour Party say the same as the Greens and actually have a chance to get in - so if you cared about that why wouldn't you vote Labour who have very similar policies?
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Can't listen to the interview as I'm at work and can't remember the detail of green party policy on social housing, but iirc there's a big difference, in that greens are saying that they would build a new generation of council housing aren't they? Labour aren't saying they'd do this afaik.

Really easy to link this up to environmental concerns too - replacing all the victorian/edwardian housing stock that was built in the early 20thc with modern, environmentally friendly passiv houses is something we need to do for climate change reasons.
All the building work would stimulate our economy, we can create proper apprenticeships and pay a proper wage doing it.
It'd also serve to undercut the private rental market and housing market in general reducing rental/purchase costs.

Set out correctly, this is a proper winner of a policy, that addresses environmental, economic and social concerns. The tricky bit comes in paying for it and in justifying borrowing the money to invest, which is where I'd expect someone to attack this idea.
 
bemused said:
I was going to vote Green this year, I've met the local candidate is he's a very nice chap. Given the Conservatives get more than 50% of the vote here it's no more than a token vote. However; I am disappointed that they see to be defocusing o the environment, which is what attracts me to them.

I'm all for social housing, fair pay etc but the Labour Party say the same as the Greens and actually have a chance to get in - so if you cared about that why wouldn't you vote Labour who have very similar policies?
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do you remember labour governments?
 
Unfortunately, it's not just the Green Party. None of the parties in the United Kingdom will make an effort to tackle the economic elite, no matter how much they preach that they will, because of corporatism. If the Green Party ever got anywhere near power they'd realise that and in my belief, just like other parties, would renege on all pre-election pledges. They probably already realise that due to the nature of the economy in the UK that tackling these problems is far more complicated than they'd like to let the public know. If you want a true quality of life then emigrate, as Peter Hitchens said. If you're young then you should take advantage of all the opportunities you can. None of the parties will offer real change because that would rock the boat and at a time when the economic elite and political class have it so good, they're not going to rock the boat. They're simply going to keep making pledges come election time in an attempt to get votes to ensure their livelihoods are maintained. Governments and the politicians that make them up only have one thing on their minds, serving their own interests.
 
Christ on a bike she isn't even slightly up to this job. What's so hard about memorising a few numbers?
 
Ole said:
Christ on a bike she isn't even slightly up to this job. What's so hard about memorising a few numbers?
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Im not saying she does, but some people do suffer with problems with numbers.... its called dyscalculus.

Whilst im not saying she has it, the point is some people do, so your question whats so hard about it, is a bit of an arseholes response ;)
 
sim667 said:
Im not saying she does, but some people do suffer with problems with numbers.... its called dyscalculus.

Whilst im not saying she has it, the point is some people do, so your question whats so hard about it, is a bit of an arseholes response ;)
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How many people, to the nearest 1%?
 
wow - Natalie Bennett. Do the greens give out the job of leader on a rota basis? After her debacle with brillo pad head you'd think she might have been a bit more prepared. It hardly takes a fortune teller to work out that she might be asked about their policies.
Christ - wot a fuck up - they whinge about not being given any media exposure, and when they get the opportunity they turn into the political equivalent of frank spencer. :facepalm:
 
Europhile said:
Unfortunately, it's not just the Green Party. None of the parties in the United Kingdom will make an effort to tackle the economic elite, no matter how much they preach that they will, because of corporatism. If the Green Party ever got anywhere near power they'd realise that and in my belief, just like other parties, would renege on all pre-election pledges. They probably already realise that due to the nature of the economy in the UK that tackling these problems is far more complicated than they'd like to let the public know. If you want a true quality of life then emigrate, as Peter Hitchens said. If you're young then you should take advantage of all the opportunities you can. None of the parties will offer real change because that would rock the boat and at a time when the economic elite and political class have it so good, they're not going to rock the boat. They're simply going to keep making pledges come election time in an attempt to get votes to ensure their livelihoods are maintained. Governments and the politicians that make them up only have one thing on their minds, serving their own interests.[/QUOTE
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Emigrate where, the U.S? Italy, Australia?, most western countries have neo-liberal policies, etc, you could go to South East Asia, but make sure you don't take/like drugs, etc.

There is always Austria, Switzerland, though you have to have money to support yourself
 
treelover said:
Emigrate where, the U.S? Italy, Australia?, most western countries have neo-liberal policies, etc, you could go to South East Asia, but make sure you don't take/like drugs, etc.

There is always Austria, Switzerland, though you have to have money to support yourself
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Whilst true a lot of countries have lower tax rates, fairer governmental systems and are much cheaper to live in.
 
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