Who will be the next Labour leader?
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sleaterkinney
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Oh dear.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
why do you like her? I really can't find out anything about her policy wise. She is for tax justice and has some (academic) experience in her field. But beyond that.....? Can you actually point to any coherent economic viewpoint she has ever come out as supporting?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Well she didn’t keep her job.
Shechemite
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Starmer can fuck right off in that case
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Why?
Does Keely has talent that her replacement doesn't have? (I have no idea, it's not my field of interest...), or are you angry that a sychophant has been fired?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Her sycophancy was weird - I took it as an attempt to keep a role which appears to itself have disappeared. Keeley was excellent in her role - and advocated for issues that many in the Labour Party wouldn’t go near (institutional abuse, ECT eg)
She had a ‘constituency’ (mental health and social care) and she fought for it. She kept out of factional battles. She took the initiative to speak to people and groups that political parties have long ignored - and recognised that improving MH services wasn’t as simple as just increasing funding. She got stuff that most wouldn’t.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
She's too old for Starmer, I think. 68 now, 72/3 by the next election. He wants exciting young guns! Who happen to be a bit more right-wing too.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Indeed. She was a (welcome) shift to the left after Berger.
Shechemite
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Shechemite
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Steve Reed is in. Bit right wing isn’t he? Did get ‘Seni’s law’ through so fair play to him on that.
fakeplasticgirl
Keirleader
I liked the appointment because she comes across as bright and very competent in interviews & is somebody who is respected by all “factions”, including John McDonnell. Somebody like Rachel reeves, who loads of people were speculating would get the job, would have caused a big uproar.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Alinn-Khan has got the MH brief (which makes sense). Social care being lobbed in with Health (Ashworh’s brief).
Does any Oxford-dwelling Urban know what
is/was like as Oxford East constituency MP?
My mate who lives there doesn't rate her, but he's a mega-Oxford United supporting anarcho-syndicalist
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is/was like as Oxford East constituency MP?
My mate who lives there doesn't rate her, but he's a mega-Oxford United supporting anarcho-syndicalist
Does any Oxford-dwelling Urban know what
is/was like as Oxford East constituency MP?
My mate who lives there doesn't rate her, but he's a mega-Oxford United supporting anarcho-syndicalist
She's only been MP since 2017 when the longstanding incumbent (Andrew Smith) retired (she was previously an MEP).
I've not lived in that constituency for a while now so can't judge her competence but she's part of that Oxford University Labour crowd. Privately educated then Oxford and her partner's deputy leader of Oxford City Council. That's as much as I know really
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Was going to ask if blackbird leys is in her constitiency
Yep, he's been a councillor since 2002. His ward is nearby and includes a large estate (Rose Hill) as well as some much posher bits (Iffley).
Yes. They've been tinkering with the boundaries so not completely up to speed on the changes but Oxford East has always been most of Oxford proper. And BBL/ the car plant at Cowley etc are all east and in the constituency.
Good to have Oxford being discussed anyway 
-- my mate lives in Rose Hill**
I now know Oxford really well for someone who's never lived there myself.
**(and another good mate lives in Kidlington -- Oxford West).
-- my mate lives in Rose Hill**I now know Oxford really well for someone who's never lived there myself.
**(and another good mate lives in Kidlington -- Oxford West).
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not happy about social care being lumped in with health,.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
yeah. Doesn’t feel right to me. I can see social care being sidelined with this.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
the, official, Department is now the Dept of Health & Social Care, so it makes sense for them to copy that. I can't see who was actually responsible for SC under Blair/Brown, they don't seem to have had a specific minister at all then.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Think that the LP could easily shadow the current arrangement with someone vaguely competent showing up Helen Whately for the lightweight former private health corp lobbyist that she is.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
can’t speak for treelover, but my concern is twofold: 1) that putting health and social care together result in SC getting far less attention than it needs and 2) that separating MH and social care kind of misses the point in terms of what’s wrong with MH (which is largely that there’s nowhere near enough funding for and availability of social care services - this was something Keeley understood, not sure if RAK has the same knowledge of this but happy to find otherwise)
editor
hiraethified
She doesn't seem to be winning the argument here
Rebecca Long-Bailey wins the argument
There were jubilant scenes on the Corbynite wing of the Labour party after the results of the leadership election appeared to confirm that Rebecca Long-Bailey had won the argument.newsthump.com
Rebecca Long-Bailey defends working on PFI contracts as a lawyer
'You were part of a legal team that handed over ownership of £190million worth of NHS assets to a Luxembourg investment vehicle'
inews.co.uk
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
well, well, well.
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
It seems the only rag to make such a scurrilous allegation.
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