Which jab did you have - Astra Zeneca or Pfizer? And what side effects?

[Mation]

And just to play with these figures for a minute.

Of Urbz responding to the side-effects questions in a measurable way... (sample size 103)

...you have a roughly 50/50 chance of experiencing some side effects/no side effects (the percentage is actually 53.4/46.6)

But, for any side effects, this reduces roughly to a 1 in 3 chance if you had Pfizer (19 out of 54 reports) and increases to a roughly 3 in 4 chance if you had Astra Zeneca (36 out of 49 reports).

For extended side effects beyond 48 hours the figures are roughly a 1 in 13 chance of this happening. 1 in 18 for Pfizer. 1 in 10 approx for Astra Zeneca.

Oxford being the shit one.

Your poll doesn't consider or control for any other factors apart from which jab people had (and couldn't be expected to). What other differences are there between the people who had each, and whether or not they've had a noticeable immune response?

It's interesting to read and participate in, but don't go drawing any conclusions from it.

E2a: I meant to quote a different post, as explained below.

 

[planetgeli]

Your poll doesn't consider or control for any other factors apart from which jab people had (and couldn't be expected to). What other differences are there between the people who had each, and whether or not they've had a noticeable immune response?

It's interesting to read and participate in, but don't go drawing any conclusions from it.

Hence 'play' with the figures.

Shall I delete it then?

 

[Mation]

Hence 'play' with the figures.

Shall I delete it then?

Eep! I quoted the wrong post of yours. Apologies. Genuine mistake.

I meant to quote this one, in which you say you think it blows a theory out of the water.

I've been really pleased with the posts on here regarding people reporting what they felt as a side effect and what they were voting in the poll. I haven't seen one post where I thought 'no don't do that, that's wrong'. And while there's obvious under-reporting here because there's 103 votes on the poll and 121 jabs, that under-reporting should be evenly spread because of the randomness, the no choice, in what drug was given.

And it is showing, fwiw, that AZ gives far more side-effects than Pfizer, in this sample. And that might say all sorts of things. I think it blows the theory of "I'm having side-effects, so it's working". Unless Pfizer turns out to be the shit one of course...

Should you delete it? I don't know. I personally wouldn't delete something that's interesting and fun to participate in, and I don't think it's just me who thinks it's those things.

 

[planetgeli]

And it's Urban not the Lancet.

 

[gentlegreen]

One variable I left out of my response as a more-than-48-hourer ... I'm in 800kcal daily caloric deficit - brought home to me yesterday when I rashly cycled 10 miles slightly downhill from home after months of inactivity and only just made it home.

 

[Mation]

And it's Urban not the Lancet.

Then we agree

Meanwhile I've only just worked out that I should put some pyjamas on. Makes it easier to know what to do with my arms, as my skin is too unpleasantly sensitive to have them rest anywhere on it.

 

[planetgeli]

I was definitely thinking of submitting it for peer review.

 

[two sheds]

You have done

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Ok so at this point apart from a tiny bit of a bruised feeling in my upper arm everything seems alright. The feeling of having pulled a muscle was fairly much gone by sunday.
Will leave it a bit before voting incase anything pops up but I'm tempted to vote no effects because apart from the sore arm i'm not sure if anything else was actually caused by the jab.

Yep. Now well over a week. Apart from the sore arm all other symptoms were so mild as to be possibly unrelated or even nocebo effects.
Have voted no side effects.

 

[Numbers]

Had a headache y/day and have a headache now too, I never really get headaches - not debilitating but uncomfortable.
Y/day also both my missus and I were fatigued and yawning like mad by 5pm and were ready for bed by 7pm, we managed to make it to 8pm before we succumbed (we were both nodding off). We normally go to bed between 9 and 10 but sit up in bed for a bit talking/watching TV, she was asleep as soon as her head hit the pillow and I shortly after.

No biggie, but noticeable.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Had it 50mins ago....part one AZ

 

[Wilf]

I realise the normal protocols were followed in the development of the vaccines, so they weren't 'rushed' or corners cut. Still, it's quite a relief that don't seem to have been any long lasting side effects for either the Pfizer or the shit one (as in, the wider world, not just urban).

 

[tendril]

Had another bad night last night, but at least I did manage to get back to sleep and slept through until 11.30am. Have cried off work today. Feel like I have been beaten up.

 

[gentlegreen]

Had another bad night last night, but at least I did manage to get back to sleep and slept through until 11.30am. Have cried off work today. Feel like I have been beaten up.

Don't fight it.
Most important thing I found was to not let fever fool you into losing body heat - try to keep at an even keel ...

 

[kittyP]

Apparently not a good idea. There's tentative evidence that ibuprofen might interfere with the immune response the vaccine needs to occur. I've seen similar reference to avoiding paracetemol as well, but less so and the information sheet they give you says take it if needed.

Can I take ibuprofen after Covid vaccine? Effects of taking painkillers before and after receiving jab explained | Edinburgh News (scotsman.com)

Oh fuck, I was taking regular ibuprofen when I had my jab coz my wisdom teeth were playing up

 

[Wilf]

Oh fuck, I was taking regular ibuprofen when I had my jab coz my wisdom teeth were playing up

As far as I can tell it's at the level of 'perhaps best avoided' rather than anything firmer. Certainly the information sheet I got when I had the Astrazeneca didn't say anything about avoiding nsaids. I think the origin of this story is some study or other into rats (tories?) and the vaccine.

My 100% non-scientific conclusion is 'probably no harm done and if there was any, it's probably minimal'.

 

[Wilf]

Had another bad night last night, but at least I did manage to get back to sleep and slept through until 11.30am. Have cried off work today. Feel like I have been beaten up.

I forgot to turn up to a Teams call with my boss this morning (fucks sake, what can she expect having meetings at 9.30 ). When I did show up she said I looked 'sleepy'. I did wonder whether to fall back on the vaccine side effects, but in the end went with 'yeah, I've just got up'.

 

[planetgeli]

Interesting there are now 54 votes for each vaccine on the measurable effects bit of the poll and that mirror image is still there, 34/17, 15/34.

Not that it means anything AT ALL I just like pretty patterns in numbers.

 

[Mation]

Scalp hurts. Toes hurt. Can't lie on the side of the jab. Ribs hurt. Random stabbing pains. But, I don't have a headache, so that's something

 

[tendril]

Scalp hurts. Toes hurt. Can't lie on the side of the jab. Ribs hurt. Random stabbing pains. But, I don't have a headache, so that's something

Which one did you have?

 

[Mation]

Which one did you have?

Oxford/AstraZeneca. Second one will be in 11 weeks.

Anyone who's had your second jab, too, do you get side effects then, as well?

shifting gears ? (Soz - I couldn't remember who had said they'd had the second dose, because all I could think of was Dave Doublejabs, so that's what I had to search for to find out )

 

[Numbers]

snip I just like pretty patterns in numbers.

Cheers Bud, makes me feel better.

 

[marshall]

Had my first AZ jab 36 hours ago, no real side-effects so far, am I in the clear? Can I relax?

 

[8ball]

Had my first AZ jab 36 hours ago, no real side-effects so far, am I in the clear? Can I relax?

I think I read that most side effects should come along in the first 48 hours.

 

[LDC]

Had my first AZ jab 36 hours ago, no real side-effects so far, am I in the clear? Can I relax?

Almost certainly.

 

[tendril]

Oh fuck, I was taking regular ibuprofen when I had my jab coz my wisdom teeth were playing up

I have been alternating cocodomol and ibuprofen for 2 days. The fact sheet doesn't say anything about not taking ibuprofen.

 

[tendril]

I think I read that most side effects should come along in the first 48 hours.

I had my jab at 15.40 and the side effects kicked in at around 1.45 that night.

 

[oryx]

Had the Astra Zeneca last Friday.

Didn't really have any side effects - maybe a very mild sore throat and some minor shooting pains the following night but nothing that even merited taking a paracetamol or having an early night!

 

[Mation]

I had my jab at 15.40 and the side effects kicked in at around 1.45 that night.

Very similar timing for me. Then it ramped up a few hours later.

Feeling a bit better now, 35 hours later. I don't hurt as much. Not nearly as shivery, but it's still there a bit.

Do I dose up on paracetamol, cycle the round trip to work, get public transport to work, or finish letting my body do its thing? I've got tonnes to do at work, and also know I'll feel like they'll think I'm skiving, but don't really want to be there right now, or for this to last any longer than it has to.

 

[alfajobrob]

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