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I'm not arsed if you agree with it tbh chuck, it is what it is. Artist intention is all well and good, but it holds no special weight, it isn't carried forward as an integral part of the art, and I speak as an artist. Reception, interpretation - this is where the art finishes up. I hated it for the reasons I outlined. I am unable to suspend my disbelief and sink into the story/enjoy the art if the dialogue/costume/whatever keep being flagged up with a great big horn blast as utterly inauthentic, if it sounds like a conversation I heard in the co op this affy.
You’d hate this film then:
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Ooo, I've not heard of that film, I'll look it up ta!

Yeh, I would like to rewatch it too. It was so tender it made me ache at times.

They both overlap on the coming of age/problematic friendship front. Me Without You, however, doesn't have the gay romance :(
 
I don’t agree with that at all! Historical rivet-counting is as tiresome as slavish attention to detail and can get in the way of the story-telling

its not about "slavish attention to detail" though - where it fails is in creating a convincing world. Evockeing a sense of time and place. A skilled writer would be able to write convinicing dialouge that does that whislt still engaing the audience - and old school yorkshire dialect is very rich and evocative. Very hard to make it feel like 18th centuary yorkshire when you have actors improvising in the style of a modern day bar in Halifax.
Gallows pole is a total mess IMO - there is a really good story to be told - but the meandering, clangingly anarchronistic dialougue and leaden pace come close to killing it off. And it massively neglects the "show dont tell" rule - we are told that the clothier is a robbing bastard and that times are hard only cos the charchters keep mentioning it (as well as it being highlighted in the credits) - but we dont actually "see" any of it. We are told its a "community" but only ever see one building and about 8 charachters. Its does a real diservice to the people whose story it is supposed to be telling. You'd think as a BBC drama with a big name director it wouldnt look like a low budget student project.
Bit gutted cos i was really looking forward to this after coming accross the tale of the coin clippers - and the fact it was going to be a shane meadows drama - when I was camping in crag vale last year. Ive managed two epsisodes and really dont know if i can be arsed with any more of it.

(and how the fuck did it get 5 stars from the gaurdian?)
 
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Started Gallows Pole last night. Managed one and a half episodes. Sadly, it's just not that good. Nothing wrong with anachronistic dialogue etc, but there is a lot wrong with shit dialogue. And shit it is. Socha & Turgoose are both perfectly decent performers, but they obviously don't have the chops to come out with convincing, in character, performances here. Just throw another 'fuck' in to make it sound authentic. I've also got no reason to actually give a shit about any of the characters so far.

(and how the fuck did it get 5 stars from the gaurdian?)
because that piece was written by Lucy Mangan, who is an idiot.
 
They both overlap on the coming of age/problematic friendship front. Me Without You, however, doesn't have the gay romance :(
I wish I hadn't read this before seeing the film because I KNEW then that nothing was going to happen.

Anyway, I did watch it, and it was excellent, so cheers for that.
 
I wish I hadn't read this before seeing the film because I KNEW then that nothing was going to happen.

Anyway, I did watch it, and it was excellent, so cheers for that.

Ah, sorry, unintended spoiler. Glad you enjoyed it though. I felt like I was watching my high school friendship replicated on-screen.
 
Ah, sorry, unintended spoiler. Glad you enjoyed it though. I felt like I was watching my high school friendship replicated on-screen.
It made me skin up. The constant bloody smoking :D We had a little reminisce about how absolutely everything we did back then was accompanied with a ciggy :D
 
I finally watched the Depeche Mode programme today. Very strange, as I had no idea they were that global.

I liked how that American bloke at the start thought Basildon was some sort of pristine paradise. I can only think it was filmed before 2010, when the sign was put up:

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I really REALLY wanted to like this, but fuck me, it's absolute shite. Think we lasted about 15 mins before the complete and utter lack of any attempt at authenticity in any area of it became actually fucking insulting. Gutted cos I bloody love Shane Meadows.
Gallows Pole.

See, I'm loving it so far. My take is it's not supposed to be authentic in terms of dialogue and behaviour, which is un ashamedly 2023, but is in terms of costume and design. Add in shooting it like a fly on the wall documentary whilst still having BBC costoooom drama standards of beauty in the costumes, locations and actors.

I love it so far (episode three) but I do like things that are different.
 
Thoroughly enjoying watching a recording of the live 1970 general election results' program. Fascinating to see how different so many things were back then.


They do the occasional vox pop interviews with members of the public. So, imagine my surprise to see this chap being interviewed...

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Once upon a Time in Northern Ireland.

One of the best things about the Troubles I've ever seen (and I've watched a lot of docs on the subject).

Granted, I have a personal interest in it as Mum and Dad are from Belfast but I think its essential viewing. Very hard to watch at times. But the humour and warmth of the people constantly shines through. Even when talking about very grim stuff (some of them had done themselves).
 
Watching this at the mo.


Scary shit so far. Maybe some folk are right about "big pharma".
We've known for about ten years that the pharma companies hid their bad anti-depressant trial results, that if you include those results most of them were probably barely better than placebo, and that the side effects were worse than they claimed. I assume that's what they're covering? Is there anything new?
 
We've known for about ten years that the pharma companies hid their bad anti-depressant trial results, that if you include those results most of them were probably barely better than placebo, and that the side effects were worse than they claimed. I assume that's what they're covering? Is there anything new?

Yeah, I knew some of it already. Main new thing to me was sexual dysfunction that is permanent (so even after treatment stops). There's also the controversy over low serotonin being the cause of depression. Has never been proven, but pharma was stating this as fact. Not watched the whole thing yet.
 
Once upon a Time in Northern Ireland.

One of the best things about the Troubles I've ever seen (and I've watched a lot of docs on the subject).

Granted, I have a personal interest in it as Mum and Dad are from Belfast but I think it’s essential viewing. Very hard to watch at times. But the humour and warmth of the people constantly shines through. Even when talking about very grim stuff (some of them had done themselves).
I’ll second this. One of the best documentaries I’ve ever seen. Compelling and heart-wrenching in equal measures. Check it out folks.
 
Bit of a muso doc day yesterday. This also worth watching.

Bollocks can't get the link.

It's Everything. The story of the real thing
 
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