What stupid shit has Trump done today?

[2hats]

Trump doesn't get to choose the nuke codes himself does he? It's probably "maga2020!" if he does

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[SheilaNaGig]

She’s dead

We should recognize Lisa Montgomery’s execution for what it was: the vicious, unlawful and unnecessary exercise of authoritarian power. We cannot let this happen again.”

U.S. Executes Lisa Montgomery for 2004 Murder (Published 2021)

She was the first woman to be put to death by the federal government since 1953 and had been the only woman on federal death row.

www.nytimes.com

 

[moochedit]

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Phew!

 

[fishfinger]

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Person, woman, man, camera, TV.

 

[T & P]

Does anyone know how the chain of command and/or legal authority to disobey the POTUS works regarding nuclear attack? In particular in scenarios where the US or any other country is not under an existential threat?

In other words, if a President orders out of the blue to launch a preemptive nuclear strike on Iran ‘’just because’, have the military high command or Congress the right and authority to order those in charge of launching the nukes to belay the presidential order?

 

[mx wcfc]

Does anyone know how the chain of command and/or legal authority to disobey the POTUS works regarding nuclear attack? In particular in scenarios where the US or any other country is not under an existential threat?

In other words, if a President orders out of the blue to launch a preemptive nuclear strike on Iran ‘’just because’, have the military high command or Congress the right and authority to order those in charge of launching the nukes to belay the presidential order?

No idea, but I hope/expect the military wouldn't actually do it.

 

[Yossarian]

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"Sadly, it later emerged that on the fateful day in question, the random sequence that had been generated was "MAGA2024!" 'The odds were astronomical,' said a researcher who led a mission to retrieve electronic evidence from devices in the Glow Zone."

 

[StoneRoad]

"Sadly, it later emerged that on the fateful day in question, the random sequence that had been generated was "MAGA2024!" 'The odds were astronomical,' said a researcher who led a mission to retrieve electronic evidence from devices in the Glow Zone."

hahahaha - but I'm sorry to rain on your parade, the EMP would probably "wipe" most electronic devices - unless they were specifically hardened.

 

[2hats]

Does anyone know how the chain of command and/or legal authority to disobey the POTUS works regarding nuclear attack? In particular in scenarios where the US or any other country is not under an existential threat?

In other words, if a President orders out of the blue to launch a preemptive nuclear strike on Iran ‘’just because’, have the military high command or Congress the right and authority to order those in charge of launching the nukes to belay the presidential order?

Joint chiefs phone back and check with the VP, Secretaries of State and Defense, National Security Advisor, ask for more details, stall. That's what they did when Nixon phoned up drunk in the middle of the night demanding they nuke N Korea.

 

[chandlerp]

It’s actually illegal under US law to launch a first strike with nuclear weapons so if Trump ordered a nuclear launch the order would be an illegal order and not obeyed.

 

[T & P]

Joint chiefs phone back and check with the VP, Secretaries of State and Defense, National Security Advisor, ask for more details, stall. That's what they did when Nixon phoned up drunk in the middle of the night demanding they nuke N Korea.

Fuck me, did he really? Didn’t know that

 

[Orang Utan]

Joint chiefs phone back and check with the VP, Secretaries of State and Defense, National Security Advisor, ask for more details, stall. That's what they did when Nixon phoned up drunk in the middle of the night demanding they nuke N Korea.

Aye, also, there’s always a ‘little’ man like Stanislav Patrov who can think for themselves and put a spanner in the works:

Stanislav Petrov - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[moochedit]

It’s actually illegal under US law to launch a first strike with nuclear weapons so if Trump ordered a nuclear launch the order would be an illegal order and not obeyed.

This suggests otherwise below. Nato, the usa and the uk don't have a "no first strike" policy.

No first use - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Edit - actually there might need to be an invasion of usa territory to make it valid even if no nukes.

 

[CNT36]

goes off to try st0lenelecti0n and fuckb1den

MAGA2021!

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

Aye, also, there’s always a ‘little’ man like Stanislav Patrov who can think for themselves and put a spanner in the works:

Stanislav Petrov - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Glad we didn't hear about this at the time the stress was high enough as it was.

 

[cyril_smear]

has anybody ever being successfully impeached?

 

[chandlerp]

Trump, twice. Clinton once. Someone else once too

Successfully impeached, yes. Convicted, no.

 

[Orang Utan]

has anybody ever being successfully impeached?

Nope

 

[mx wcfc]

has anybody ever being successfully impeached?

I was wondering on similar lines - the first time Trump got impeached, there were no actual consequences were there? Does the upper house have to find him guilty before anything happens?

 

[chandlerp]

Impeachment is the equivalent of a Grand Jury choosing to indict for a crime. So from that perspective an impeachment is just the act of charging the crime. The Senate then conduct a trial but whatever the result the impeachment stands.

 

[moochedit]

has anybody ever being successfully impeached?

I think Nixon came closest but jumped before he was pushed.

 

[Orang Utan]

Trump, twice. Clinton once. Someone else once too

Successfully impeached, yes. Convicted, no.

Andrew Jackson, though can't remember why as I learnt this in A-level History.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

has anybody ever being successfully impeached?

Yes, Trump. Twice.

If you mean actually removed from office, not in recent history. Nixon resigned when he would have been. Senate didn't convict Clinton or Trump (i)

 

[Orang Utan]

I think Nixon came closest but jumped before he was pushed.

they didn't even get round to impeaching him

 

[Orang Utan]

Can't we just throw tinned peaches at him while he's confined by a pillory?

 

[cyril_smear]

Trump, twice. Clinton once. Someone else once too

Successfully impeached, yes. Convicted, no.

Allow me to rephrase it then. Has anybody ever faced any legal proceedings after being impeached?

 

[eoin_k]

has anybody ever being successfully impeached?

Yes Trump twice, Nixon, Clinton... But it is the trial on the Senate your asking about.

ETA : too slow.

 

[CNT36]

Can't we just throw tinned peaches at him while he's confined by a pillory?

No but you can have the lids.

 

[strung out]

Allow me to rephrase it then. Has anybody ever faced any legal proceedings after being impeached?

They've all faced a trial in the Senate, none have been convicted.

 

[belboid]

has anybody ever being successfully impeached?

Andrew Johnson for imposing a Secretary of State against congresses approval. * Nixon was given an absolute pardon (tho he was never actua. lly impeached anyway).

The impeachment of Clinton should look so absurd for Republicans now. (He's never been convicted of anything since leaving office either, not even bogarting a joint). If its okay to impeach someone for lying about a blowjob, then what the fuck does anyone have to complain about?


*oops, sorry, Johnson actually survived the vote - by 1. He lost the next election though. (He also bought Alaska on the cheap)