What stupid shit has Trump done today?

[Streathamite]

absolutely nothing wrong with screwing over the big tech companies and taxing the fuck out of them. ditto, the horrific regime that is the PRC.
It's just that the way Trump is trying to do it is 100% fantasyland politics. He can't actually do anything that he's pretending to try to do against them. It's axctually impossible., legally, to do so, so it's another con trick, so all it ends up with is another Big Tech bunch - microsoft - taking their stuff. It's a complete snow job.

e2a: he's doing nothing for working class people in doing so; he's just aiding one plutocrat group against another.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Trump weighs in on the Beirut explosion by claiming it was an attack.

“I would advise against listening to Donald Trump at the best of times, let alone the worst,” Tom Fletcher, a former British ambassador to Lebanon, said.

“You can’t show up unprepared for the Middle East. Careless messaging from the White House has consequences, even when no one takes the tweeter seriously. I hope future American presidents will try to help put out fires in the region, not fan them.”

Alarm at Trump's unsubstantiated claim that Beirut blast was an 'attack'

Lebanese officials reportedly seek urgent clarification of off-the-cuff remarks not backed by US government officials

www.theguardian.com

" The White House gave no guidance on Wednesday as to whether Trump had received a top secret intelligence briefing, had seen something on Twitter – or just made up the claim and imagined a conversation with US generals. "

 

[MickiQ]

" The White House gave no guidance on Wednesday as to whether Trump had received a top secret intelligence briefing, had seen something on Twitter – or just made up the claim and imagined a conversation with US generals. "

Pretty much every leak from the White House includes the statement that Trump doesn't read briefings so it's definitely one of the other two, my money is the last.

 

[two sheds]

Pretty much every leak from the White House includes the statement that Trump doesn't read briefings so it's definitely one of the other two, my money is the last.

That's not true

He reads briefings if they're very simple and have pictures in them, particularly pictures of himself.

 

[spring-peeper]

Oh, go get stuffed!!!

Trump imposing new aluminum tariff, Canada readies countermeasures

Canada is planning to retaliate with countermeasures after U.S. President Donald Trump announced his plans to impose a 10-per-cent tariff on Canadian aluminum imports, despite condemnation from aluminum organizations on both sides of the border.

www.ctvnews.ca

Dias has said that the arguments that American steel producers are making to the Trump administration about the need for intervention — including that a surge in Canadian aluminum imports is causing aluminum prices to collapse — are “preposterous and utterly divorced from reality,” because globally, due to COVID-19, demand for metal has gone down and that’s led to the declining prices.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Depends how many people Biden ends up killing. I'll reserve judgement

One thing that has distinguished Trump is that most of his body count have been American citizens. A certain amount of overseas deaths are part of the job description (sorry), but letting citizens die because you can't be bothered or you're too busy raking in profit, is not.

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

Trump ranting that Biden wants to take away American’s guns and rights and to “hurt God” is just par for the course, but also another example of him trying to fire up his base into hysteria and his Christian Falangist Militia outriders to actual violence.

 

[krtek a houby]

I can't believe there hasn't been a terrible disease outbreak yet. Jesus, those places are a hazard to communities their in never mind the poor people locked up in them.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I would hate to be a Trump supporter, how the heck can someone even begin to spin that?

That's why I think the polls are wrong. A lot of people won't publicly admit they're Trump supporters. The race is closer than any of us knows and we shouldn't just hang back safe in the knowledge that Biden will win, until Biden actually has won.

 

[bimble]

That's why I think the polls are wrong. A lot of people won't publicly admit they're Trump supporters. The race is closer than any of us knows and we shouldn't just hang back safe in the knowledge that Biden will win, until Biden actually has won.

But it’s also very hard to publicly admit you have made a mistake and were wrong last time, I’m still optimistic that a good number of people who say they’ll vote trump again actually won’t do it in the privacy of the booth.

 

[two sheds]

That's why I think the polls are wrong. A lot of people won't publicly admit they're Trump supporters. The race is closer than any of us knows and we shouldn't just hang back safe in the knowledge that Biden will win, until Biden actually has won.

Yep a couple of elections ago the pollers asked people how they were going to vote and they said "Labour", then on polls going in to vote they said "Labour" went in and voted tory and when they came out were asked how they voted and said "Labour".

 

[tim]

I lie to pollsters on principle, or at least would do if they could be arsed to ask me

 

[Streathamite]

That's why I think the polls are wrong. A lot of people won't publicly admit they're Trump supporters. The race is closer than any of us knows and we shouldn't just hang back safe in the knowledge that Biden will win, until Biden actually has won.

agree with all of that, with the reservation that Trump ultras hardly seem the shy and retiring types. More likely to be true of lifelong Republicans who arw swallowing the huge reservations they have about Trump, in order to stay loyal to the GOP

 

[redsquirrel]

Yep a couple of elections ago the pollers asked people how they were going to vote and they said "Labour", then on polls going in to vote they said "Labour" went in and voted tory and when they came out were asked how they voted and said "Labour".

Did they? When?

 

[two sheds]

Cameron 2015 election think it was.

 

[redsquirrel]

Nope, the polls were incorrect in 2015 due to different reasons - unrepresentative samples.
Shy Tories were a factor in '92 but that error has been addressed since.

 

[two sheds]

'92 it was then seems just like yesterday

 

[two sheds]

Nope, the polls were incorrect in 2015 due to different reasons - unrepresentative samples.
Shy Tories were a factor in '92 but that error has been addressed since.

Why ask if you already knew?

 

[redsquirrel]

To find out if you were making a valid point or just repeating a tired inaccurate cliche.

EDIT: If people are going to criticise polling data fine but let's do it on something with a real basis

 

[two sheds]

To find out if you were making a valid point or just repeating a tired inaccurate cliche.

I remember it happening so I'm assuming that makes it a valid point. So I got the date wrong I'm not sure how that automatically makes it a tired inaccurate cliche.

You were doing so well being polite now getting a bit snidey.

 

[redsquirrel]

It's a tired inaccurate cliche because it's been used as an argument about why polls are "wrong" for 25+ years despite it being a long fixed problem. You're claim that

Yep a couple of elections ago the pollers asked people how they were going to vote and they said "Labour", then on polls going in to vote they said "Labour" went in and voted tory and when they came out were asked how they voted and said "Labour"

is not true and it has not been true for a long time.

 

[bimble]

It's a tired inaccurate cliche because it's been used as an argument about why polls are "wrong" for 25+ years despite it being a long fixed problem. You're claim that is not true and it has not been true for a long time.

And so why not reply with your information instead of the old ‘oh really when was that then’ aggressive question that wasn’t actually a question. I dont get why you wouldn’t just say no you’re wrong here’s why.

 

[two sheds]

It's a tired inaccurate cliche because it's been used as an argument about why polls are "wrong" for 25+ years despite it being a long fixed problem. You're claim that is not true and it has not been true for a long time.

So the you're saying the pollsters now allow for it, and so presumably it still happens? Which was the point I was making.

You may be right - interested to see where the US pollsters have allowed for this specifically with Trump.

 

[two sheds]

And so why not reply with your information instead of the old ‘oh really when was that then’ aggressive question that wasn’t actually a question.

Thank you

I thought it was just me.

Someone without an agenda would have responded something along the lines of "Yes it was true - not really true now in the UK at least because pollsters allow for that effect".

 

[redsquirrel]

And what does repeating bullshit that has been shown to be wrong time and time again say for an "agenda"?

 

[two sheds]

And what does repeating bullshit that has been shown to be wrong time and time again say for an "agenda"?

Where has it been shown to be wrong "time and time again" in the USA with Trump? I'm waiting for the reference I asked for. I just said it happened once, which you agreed with although I got the date wrong.

Nice to see you're getting back into character again Is this how the left are supposed to talk to people?

 

[bimble]

And what does repeating bullshit that has been shown to be wrong time and time again say for an "agenda"?

It’s a bit sad to watch your righteous anger just sprayed around everywhere like this for years, feels like a waste. Haven’t noticed you say much about what’s wrong with the current president but two sheds gets your full amo.

 

[two sheds]

He's been quite mild so far compared with past performance

 

[bimble]

I know. Anyway enough, it’s not what stupid shit has redsquirrel done today thread.

 

[two sheds]

Yep I'm happy to leave the digression if he does.