what no thread about occupy oakland

[Pickman's model]

shame on you

 

[elbows]

Check the occupy wall street thread, the last page is full of this.

 

[Nylock]

yeah, with a lot of other footage as well...

 

[OneStrike]

Pickman's

 

[DrRingDing]

 

[OneStrike]

Anyone know if he is ok? he looked zonked from the clips that i have seen.

 

[ferrelhadley]

An Iraq war veteran has a fractured skull and brain swelling after allegedly being hit by a police projectile. Scott Olsen is in a "critical condition" in Highland hospital in Oakland, a hospital spokesman confirmed. Olsen, 24, suffered the head injury during protests in Oakland on Tuesday evening. More than 15 people were arrested after a crowd gathered to demonstrate against the police operation to clear two Occupy Oakland camps in the early hours of Tuesday morning.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/26/occupy-oakland-veteran-critical-condition?newsfeed=true

Olsen had only moved to Oakland in July, Carpenter said. He is a member of Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War, and met Carpenter through her work with the civilian soldier alliance.

 

[Pickman's model]

Check the occupy wall street thread, the last page is full of this.

yes because wall street's well known as being on the west coast of the united states

 

[Pickman's model]

Pickman's

yes because wall street's well known as being on the west coast of the united states

 

[ferrelhadley]

In a statement, police said they fired canisters of tear gas and bean bag rounds at protesters, but denied they used flashbangs or rubber bullets. Protesters say police are lying about their use of force, posting photos of welts on Twitter to prove rubber bullets were used, and slow-motion videos of the clashes on YouTube they say shows that police used flashbangs.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...on-protesters/2011/10/26/gIQAL4pOJM_blog.html

 

[ferrelhadley]

Oakland does seem to have enough going on for its own thread.

 

[ferrelhadley]

 

[elbows]

yes because wall street's well known as being on the west coast of the united states

I wasn't saying you were wrong for starting a thread, was just pointing you at some discussion on the matter that had already happened.

 

[teqniq]

Yea I posted 3 vids on the Wall St thread but the more people that see this, the better.

 

[OneStrike]

I was only jesting Pickman's, i have tried being the internet arse before, I don't have the capability. Oakland is exceptional in the US so far, hopefully the cops have united the general pop.

 

[lizzieloo]

Anyone know if he is ok? he looked zonked from the clips that i have seen.

That's not the veteran

This is

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He's not in a good way apparently

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-veteran-shot-face-police-rubber-bullet.html

 

[OneStrike]

Thanks for the clarity Lizzie, not good

 

[dylans]

Pickman's

No. on this I agree with him completely. This deserves its own thread. Really shocking brutality against an entirely peaceful demonstration and hopefully a wake up call which needs to be met with the only proper response which is thousands more on the streets.

 

[elbows]

Please don't shout at me for reporting that Scott Olsen is currently trending on US twitter.

 

[OneStrike]

No. on this I agree with him completely. This deserves its own thread. Really shocking brutality against an entirely peaceful demonstration and hopefully a wake up call which needs to be met with the only proper response which is thousands more on the streets.

Dylans, i've appreciated a lot of your posts in the global forum, so I would like to think you know i wasn't anything other than thread protective in that inane post of mine. Oakland has set a new precedent.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

It sounds like Oakland's mayor was less than popular before this incident and didn't improve her situation by sending the cops in to bust up the protest:

As police and Occupy Oakland protesters squared off in front of City Hall this week, organizers of a recall campaign took their first formal steps this week toward an effort to remove Mayor Jean Quan from office.

“The people of Oakland seek to recall Mayor Quan because she has willfully ignored the City’s most pressing issue: public safety,” reads the document, containing 71 signatures, called a “Notice of Intention to Circulate Recall Petition.” Filing this form Monday with the City Clerk was the first official step in initiating the recall process.

Other grievances listed included Quan’s recent support for a “regressive” parcel tax, her “squandering” of an opportunity to shape the direction of development on the Oakland Army Base, and the city’s high unemployment rate.

http://blog.sfgate.com/inoakland/2011/10/26/group-seeks-to-recall-oakland-mayor-jean-quan/

 

[elbows]

Also Oaklands police chief announced his resignation some weeks back, although I don't think he's actually left yet. Part of the article details some longstanding problems with their police.

It remains unclear how much Batts was influenced by the threat of increased federal control of the Police Department.
Last week, U.S. District Judge Thelton Henderson warned Oakland officials about the city's failure to meet the terms of a consent decree to reform the department in the wake of the "Riders" scandal, in which several officers were charged with beating or framing drug suspects in West Oakland in 2000.
The city initially had five years to make reforms but is now entering its ninth year of trying to comply. Unmet goals include identifying habitually abusive officers and protecting internal whistle-blowers, attorneys said.
Henderson said in a court order that he was "prepared to take appropriate further corrective action if necessary."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/11/BAD41LG93T.DTL

 

[dylans]

Here is her twitter address. @jeanquan

Here's an empty shell and the cap of a fin stabilized rubber slug from a 12 gauge shotgun

Here is a piggy with a shotgun, clearly enjoying his work far too much

rubber buckshot

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I think "rubber bullet" is a bit of misnomer. I believe that its actually a metal bullet with rubber cushioning around it, but I could be wrong. The technology on that changes from time to time.

 

[butchersapron]

I don't get it. Are we outraged at the forces of the state doing their job or pretending to be outraged at the forces of the state doing their job? Maybe the people reactions could be talked about?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I don't get it. Are we outraged at the forces of the state doing their job or pretending to be outraged at the forces of the state doing their job? Maybe the people reactions could be talked about?

The videos speak for themselves.

 

[dylans]

Here is an advert for the same non lethal shotgun rounds
http://www.defense-technology.com/pdfs/promos/2008_SIMPromo_Flyer_web_promo.pdf

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Here is an advert for the same non lethal shotgun rounds
http://www.defense-technology.com/pdfs/promos/2008_SIMPromo_Flyer_web_promo.pdf

Kevlar. My they are getting fancy, arn't they?

 

[dylans]

I don't get it. Are we outraged at the forces of the state doing their job or pretending to be outraged at the forces of the state doing their job? Maybe the people reactions could be talked about?

Well If you are so immune to images of the state brutally attacking peaceful demonstrators that you are no longer moved by such images then I congratulate you. Me, I still have enough of my humanity left to still be disgusted and outraged when it happens and I hope I always will be.

 

[butchersapron]

Well If you are so immune to images of the state brutally attacking peaceful demonstrators that you are no longer moved by such images then I congratulate you. Me, I still have enough of my humanity left to still be disgusted and outraged when it happens and I hope I always will be.

The latter then.