Westminster to use constitutional tool to block Holyrood gender recognition law.

[Pickman's model]

I wonder how you’d have coped with any potential backlash, including from decades old friends.

Yeh well sadly we'll never know

 

[editor]

If there are any further instances of deliberate misgendering here, thread bans will follow.

 

[editor]

I'm going to add it to the FAQ when I get a moment too. It's about basic courtesy and a respect for other posters.

 

[Jennaonthebeach]

Yes, this comes back to my ongoing point of describing people as "biological [insert]". One can't tell a person's biological makeup by anything but a chromosomal test. As you say, why not just gender people by how they say they want to be gendered and live their lives.

As I understand it a chromosomal test doesn't provide absolute proof either. You do get women with XY XY gonadal dysgenesis - Wikipedia which is assumed to be rare, but we don't really know as so few people actually get tested. It tends to only show up if someone has a related health issue and require testing.

 

[Jennaonthebeach]

Yeh well sadly we'll never know

Any trans person knows though. I lost literally every single friend I had when i transitioned, and my family.

 

[cesare]

As I understand it a chromosomal test doesn't provide absolute proof either. You do get women with XY XY gonadal dysgenesis - Wikipedia which is assumed to be rare, but we don't really know as so few people actually get tested. It tends to only show up if someone has a related health issue and require testing.

That's a really good point reminding me that chromosomal tests aren't proof of the "biology" either.

"Biology" is a shifting sand signal.
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[Pickman's model]

Any trans person knows though. I lost literally every single friend I had when i transitioned, and my family.

I'm very sorry to hear that ((((Jennaonthebeach))))

 

[cesare]

Any trans person knows though. I lost literally every single friend I had when i transitioned, and my family.

Your bereavement and loss must have been huge. I appreciate you can never regain what you had, but I hope you feel that your face is to the sun now.

 

[Jennaonthebeach]

Your bereavement and loss must have been huge. I appreciate you can never regain what you had, but I hope you feel that your face is to the sun now.

My partner died in 2020 after we moved to Dover together. So its been a bit rough. Trying to find my feet again, but its not easy at my age.

 

[cesare]

My partner died in 2020 after we moved to Dover together. So its been a bit rough. Trying to find my feet again, but its not easy at my age.

I'm so sorry for your loss. There are many people here that will say and do things to hold your spirit up. Lean on us x

 

[Jennaonthebeach]

I'm so sorry for your loss. There are many people here that will say and do things to hold your spirit up. Lean on us x

thanks

 

[friendofdorothy]

I don't think anywhere should be like that, but I did feel after that that challenging transphobic innuendo is a no no. I did feel that it was me that had transgressed some unwritten rule by challenging something I viewed as a dig at trans people.

Apologies -not what I intended.

 

[friendofdorothy]

Any trans person knows though. I lost literally every single friend I had when i transitioned, and my family.

That is so tough, I'm sorry. Please do come back to the sofa if you need to chat. Promise to be more mindful of keeping the thread safe for you. Visiting homo/transphobes are not welcome there.

My partner died in 2020 after we moved to Dover together. So its been a bit rough. Trying to find my feet again, but its not easy at my age.

I'm so to hear that, sorry for your loss. Sincere condolences and best wishes.

 

[Jennaonthebeach]

Apologies -not what I intended.

I didn't ever blame you - I just assumed it was the unwritten rules of the thread and I had made a mistake. It's not uncommon for me to do that as I'm autistic, so used to missing nuances, blundering in, upsetting everyone.

 

[danny la rouge]

ScotGov taking it to court.

Block on Scottish gender reforms to be challenged in court Block on Scottish gender reforms to be challenged in court