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Weasel Straw strikes again (Pakistani men in Britain see white girls as "easy meat")

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Fucking hell pk. The amount of digging you've been doing you don't need a spade, you need one of these:

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I would however like to praise this thread for some of the most sanely anti-racist anti-sexist posts I've ever seen on urban - in response to one man flailing about like an epileptic with a pickaxe (I thought he'd like a non-PC insult, just so he knows that like every sensible person I'm on his side really).
 
Proper Tidy said:
Neither do the men who have been found guilty of grooming. Or do you think they are all trainee immans fresh from the madrasa?
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I was taking the piss out of you for having a go at me for referring to them as "Muslim" when you referred to them as the same. Must have gone over your head. Sorry

rover07 said:
I worked as a taxi-driver in Birmingham for 10 years. Many of the muslim drivers i knew drank, smoked weed and had white girlfriends. Some were married and had second 'wives' who they had met while dating English women.

Some even went to Friday prayers.

On arranged marriages, it always seemed to me that they were less hung up about sex than the white or black drivers as they knew that one day they would be getting married. So the pressure was off to mate!
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See above
 
smokedout said:
so the only piece of evidence youve repeatedly referred to appears to show the opposite of what you were claiming pk
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I've posted plenty of stuff, some of it supports the original premise, some doesn't. I haven't been cherry picking shit to suit an agenda because in this case I don't have one, I'm not actively trying to paint all muslims as nonces no matter what's been touted here. Typical urban75 innit.

However I still think there is a specific problem with muslim gangs who have no problem with drugging infidel children and raping them.

It's not a new problem by any stretch, but the act of sweeping it under the carpet has meant these rapist cunts have made a lot of money and of course that means more and more little cunts want to try it for themselves.
And it has definitely been swept under the carpet until now.

And I do think that the idea they would do it to muslim girls is extremely unlikely give or take a nominal amount of cases.

It's one of those uncomfortable things that may well put my views on the same horizon as BNP scum but so be it.

I don't like islamic oppression, not here and not anywhere. The Pakistani laws are dominated by Shariah, and well over half the women in jail there are there because they are rape victims who have no means to defend themselves.
It's hardly inconceivable to think that similar attitudes in culture would find themselves permeating Pakistani dominated areas of the UK.

Nothing I have said I consider to be overly outrageous or wrong, and if so I've maintained an open position.

But my opinion remains nonetheless, mostly because nobody has shown evidence to the contrary (i.e. Bengali/Chinese/Sikh gangs doing the same thing)

So there we are.

And I like digging holes anyway. You can't build a good foundation without digging a few holes.

And I've certainly pissed off some of the hypocritical self-righteous PC crowd, which is a win in my book whatever the result.

So it's all good. :)
 
pk said:
However I still think there is a specific problem with muslim gangs who have no problem with drugging infidel children and raping them.

It's not a new problem by any stretch, but the act of sweeping it under the carpet has meant these rapist cunts have made a lot of money and of course that means more and more little cunts want to try it for themselves.
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I don't think this is a money making scheme like "traditional" pimping and prostitution organised crime. I think it's more a group of friends (or more likely a group of family friends) who keep the girl/s for themselves, rather than pimping them out. I think they use these girls as an outlet for their sexual frustrations rather than a way of making money.

And I do think that the idea they would do it to muslim girls is extremely unlikely give or take a nominal amount of cases.
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If they can get a Muslim girl then bonus! And it happens, but certainly not in the same numbers of non-Muslim girls

But my opinion remains nonetheless, mostly because nobody has shown evidence to the contrary (i.e. Bengali/Chinese/Sikh gangs doing the same thing)
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I don't know about the groups you mentioned, but every ethnic group will commit sex offences and child sexual exploitation. The point I've been getting at is that I believe they all commit these offences for different reasons. Nobody here can tell me that arranged marriages and the discouragement of sex (which is a prevailing tradition in Pakistani communities not experienced by the wider British public) has not had a negative effect on some Muslim men in this country. The White sex offender will offend for different reasons and interestingly, will tend to target much younger children whereas these gangs will target adolescents (which I believe has to do with the fetishisation of virgins). Altho I know very well there are exceptions to both of these "rules"
 
CyberRose said:
I don't think this is a money making scheme like "traditional" pimping and prostitution organised crime. I think it's more a group of friends (or more likely a group of family friends) who keep the girl/s for themselves, rather than pimping them out. I think they use these girls as an outlet for their sexual frustrations rather than a way of making money.


If they can get a Muslim girl then bonus! And it happens, but certainly not in the same numbers of non-Muslim girls


I don't know about the groups you mentioned, but every ethnic group will commit sex offences and child sexual exploitation. The point I've been getting at is that I believe they all commit these offences for different reasons. Nobody here can tell me that arranged marriages and the discouragement of sex (which is a prevailing tradition in Pakistani communities not experienced by the wider British public) has not had a negative effect on some Muslim men in this country. The White sex offender will offend for different reasons and interestingly, will tend to target much younger children whereas these gangs will target adolescents (which I believe has to do with the fetishisation of virgins). Altho I know very well there are exceptions to both of these "rules"
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Well clearly we are in agreement. I see no inkling of Bengali/Chinese/whatever gangs doing similar, and as nobody has posted an example of a conviction in comparison to the dozens one can find of Pakistani muslim examples I doubt anyone will provide them.

In Holland it's mostly the Morrocans. In Norway and Denmark too, along with others.

Definitely a pattern, and that pattern points to the same conclusions you and I know to be true...

I have a feeling Straw's comments were a forewarning of many similar cases that are still under investigation...
 
The sound of an ego jumping on a bandwagon is deafening. Why aren't there more like PK who are not scared ,and haven't been scared since this issue was identified three to five years ago , to speak out on this issue?

Bring forth the war.
 
The39thStep said:
you in between jobs at the moment or in rehab? You are trying to be busy aren't you?
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LOL keep trying, keep wriggling, I knew this shit would be part of the thread on page one of this motherfucker.

Try harder. Anyone reading this would think it was pub closing time again.

Is that a spillage on your collar? Slurring your words son?? :)
 
PK you are allowing your hatred of Islam to distort your thinking
Aisha may have been been 9 when she 'entered the Prophets house' - which means she was accepted by the other women in purdah - this does not mean she slept with him at this time
12 was generally accepted at the time for the earliest age at which a man could have sex with a girl - oddly the still the age of consent in the Vatican City - also the age of consent in Victorian England.
Its worth pointing out that the Wahabbi school of thought, with its rigorous pursuit of a purist ascetic reading of the Koran is actually an 18thC interpretation - in many ways inspred by Puritan Western thought (also worth noting that the founder of the Deobandi school was a contemporary the same Madrasa as Ibn Whab - the first Jihad declared in the modern erra was what we call the Indian Mutiny, deirectly from the Deobandi school, to the horror most Indain Muslims). Such a reading, fixed, rigid and with compromise was not the way the Prophet saw things
Primarily a mystic, his purpose, as he seems to have seen it, was to bring Gods love to the world.What came after his death - including the pursuit of Ali, his annointed succesor, can not be blamed on him. The same can be said for virtually ever spiritual leader in the history of humans.
Racists exist in every culture, this not some kind of Jihadi sex war, however you chose to perceive it
 
hipipol said:
PK you are allowing your hatred of Islam to distort your thinking
Aisha may have been been 9 when she 'entered the Prophets house' - which means she was accepted by the other women in purdah - this does not mean she slept with him at this time
12 was generally accepted at the time for the earliest age at which a man could have sex with a girl - oddly the still the age of consent in the Vatican City - also the age of consent in Victorian England.
Its worth pointing out that the Wahabbi school of thought, with its rigorous pursuit of a purist ascetic reading of the Koran is actually an 18thC interpretation - in many ways inspred by Puritan Western thought (also worth noting that the founder of the Deobandi school was a contemporary the same Madrasa as Ibn Whab - the first Jihad declared in the modern erra was what we call the Indian Mutiny, deirectly from the Deobandi school, to the horror most Indain Muslims). Such a reading, fixed, rigid and with compromise was not the way the Prophet saw things
Primarily a mystic, his purpose, as he seems to have seen it, was to bring Gods love to the world.What came after his death - including the pursuit of Ali, his annointed succesor, can not be blamed on him. The same can be said for virtually ever spiritual leader in the history of humans.
Racists exist in every culture, this not some kind of Jihadi sex war, however you chose to perceive it
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You're right of course, but look at all the fun I'm having winding up all the UK P&P dorks! Don't deny me!
 
Luther Blissett said:
Do you have a précis, which includes the origin/main protaganist(s) and an outline of their claims.
Thanks.
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Not really. I do try to be non-political, but islam is political with all it's ramifications and of course its hysterical response from the media, but others who refuse to accept deep problems and cultural compatibility issues are handing the impressionable young male muslims much ammunition, and they will use it.

It's when they use it against 11, 12, 13 year old children in a racially motivated perception of easy prey that eyes need to be opened and swords unsheathed.

And it is my contention that such a perception exists.

And to deny it and other uncomfortable issues regarding integration is to hand political victory to the likes of Nick Griffin.
 
pk said:
And to deny it and other uncomfortable issues regarding integration is to hand political victory to the likes of Nick Griffin.
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naah, its your using almost the exact words of Nick Griffin that makes you sound like him. Not to mention your deliberate mis-reading of facts, data, common english words.

You are like a really really thick, explicitly racist, Jazzzzzzz
 
belboid said:
naah, its your using almost the exact words of Nick Griffin that makes you sound like him. Not to mention your deliberate mis-reading of facts, data, common english words.

You are like a really really thick, explicitly racist, Jazzzzzzz
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But it is unfortunate that you have no counter to my premise.

I'm making it easy for you and you've still got fuck all.
 
Your 'premise' has been utterly countered, maybe not in your eyes. But no one cares about your opinion, you are so clearly a wilfully blind, silly little boy who just wants everyone to look at him.

Deeply sad and pathetic.
 
Not really it isn't. It was against one specific stoning. St Paul happily took part in stonings later in the same book.
 
belboid said:
Your 'premise' has been utterly countered, maybe not in your eyes. But no one cares about your opinion, you are so clearly a wilfully blind, silly little boy who just wants everyone to look at him.

Deeply sad and pathetic.
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"wilfully blind" is still better than being utterly blind.

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