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Weasel Straw strikes again (Pakistani men in Britain see white girls as "easy meat")

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DrRingDing said:
So what's your road map?
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I reckon I've got yours pretty accurate...

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DrRingDing said:
You're presuming I'm saying this doesn't go on. It does.

I'd wager that I'm the only one on this thread to have really suffered at the hands of 'traditional' islamic values.
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Come on DrRingDing - let's hear what this was about.

Wouldn't want to be accused of weaselling out of the discussion would you?
 
IMR said:
I think they are the result of men who:

- having been reared in families where arranged marriages are common, do not have the skills to be sexually successful in a dating-based culture,

- regard the girls they force into having sex with them as Vicky Pollard-style 'white trash',

- and who have been able, for a while, to get away with it because of social atomisation among the poorer white working class.
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Would it be fair to say that you could use very similar criteria (with a few words changed) to men all round the world who use prostitutes (of whom many are children)?

- want sex but couldn't be bothered "dating" (or being respectful or giving anything at all beyond the minimum required to the person they use for sexual pleasure or economic gain)
- regard their victims as trash (of whatever 'type')
- take advantage of whichever local atomised / broken / poor / despised / disadvantaged community they can easily find their victims

This logic has been used by men for hundreds (thousands?) of years to justify using and abusing women - obviously targeting the people with the least protection, where the consequences for abusing them are the least severe. Rape the wrong people and local reaction can vary enormously - eg London burnt to the ground in 60 AD to use a local example.
 
pk said:
And a round of applause for that, really intelligent stuff. Shame you don't have a view yourself, or are too afraid to tell us what that might be...
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pk said:
And a round of applause for that, really intelligent stuff. Shame you don't have a view yourself, or are too afraid to tell us what that might be...
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Its a bit difficult whether you think your ego is bigger than your head or the other way around, either way don't let that get in the way of actually reading what i have said on this thread.



You seem to think that this is entirely because they are muslims and that Islam by its very nature says this is ok. You seem to think that once a Muslim always a Muslim and that they are all the same .You make out that this imagined muslim community colludes with all this as it is governed by some sort of elder mafia. In fact you googled the web and found examples ,amongst them Iran ,and this would suggest that these lads are somehow being kept up to date with Iranian clerical decisions that justify this sought of behaviour. You claim to have seen more of this little world of ours than many on here and this has included visits to Muslim countries and when not engineering during the day in your role as DJ in Bradford you saw pimps wearing Islamic symbols who also had in their houses tapes ( how quaint in this digital age) of Muslim hate preachers.

The fact that from the 1930s through to the 1950s the Maltese were disproportionately involved in pimping in this country can be dismissed cos they weren't Muslim, the fact that Rasta emblem bearing blacks were involved in pimping and prostitution in the 70s and 80s can be dismissed because they weren't Muslim, the fact that East Europeans have a large stake in human trafficking and organised prostitution can be dismissed because they are Muslim. The fact that gang rape as a punishment and initiation is use by wannabee street gangs ( mainly in London , is it something in the water?) can be dismissed because most of them aren't Muslim gangs.The fact that the percentage of sex offenders who are Asian ( and lets say that the majority of asians might declare their religion as Muslim) is half that of the Asian percentage of the population is irrelevant because it doesn't suit the story about street grooming , rape , prostitution being integral to being a Muslim or indeed joinng the sexual jihad against the indigenous citizens of the UK as I think you put it earlier.

There is a history of kids in care being exploited for prostitution, sexual abuse and recruited into crime gangs. Its happened for years , they go missing sometimes they die of drug abuse sometimes they get murdered. 42% of prostitutes have been in care. Its not often in the press. Who has groomed them over the years ? Well mainly people who can spot someone with low self esteem, easily influenced and flattered to have any attention. it hasn't been a historical criteria that they be Muslim.

The difference here is that so called professionals didn't speak out because they feared being called racist. Griffin and the BNP campaigned on it three years ago , i don't know if it was debated on here but it was discussed on other boards and I and others contributed then on the line that it would be too simple to dismiss the BNP claims just because they came from the BNP. In the main there was a refusal by many to even consider the possibility .Perhaps you felt it safer to come out when Straw said it,even though your experineces as a night time DJ in Bradford told you all that time ago that this was all linked to Islam?

There is no doubt in my mind that Asian males are disproportionately involved in street grooming at this period in time . The problem is that they see these vulnerbale girls not as equals but inferior beings who can be bought and sold and deserve this sort of abuse. I am sure that someone somewhere in Islam deplores the sexual deparvity of western society but so did Mary Whitehouse . The idea of slags getting what they deserve, of bought sexual favours and threats of violence against the more vulnerable isn't religous based its backward reactionary sexism and in these lads case you can add racist sterotyping.The fact that they targeted those at the bottom of the pile shows where they saw the opportunity to abuse.

Your theory on it comes close to the explanations that some people put on the overepresentation of black youth in some parts of London in mugging as it was called then , some thought it was cultural, some thought it was in their genes and some liberal types thought apparently this was to do with fighting colonialism. Not just picking on those who you think you can frighten with a bit of patois but fighting colonialism. In this case its picking on those that you can get away with abusing its not fighting a sexual jihad against the kaffir.

You fucking love it.
 
DrRingDing said:
:D

....and we wonder why I don't wish to talk about something personal in this playground. :D
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Sigh.... anything of relevance to the topic yet??

You've failed in your bizarre attempt to bring crack dealers into it... I'm guessing the PM's pleading people to help you here have fallen on deaf ears...

Tell me, what happened to the woman who was a friend of yours and was forced into an arranged muslim marriage?
 
classicdish said:
Would it be fair to say that you could use very similar criteria (with a few words changed) to men all round the world who use prostitutes (of whom many are children)?
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Hmmm . . . you also write 'This logic has used been used by men for hundreds . . . of years', and I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that.

Do you mean that explains what they do, or that that's how they reason about it?
 
The39thStep said:
You seem to think that once a Muslim always a Muslim and that they are all the same.
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Uh no, that's a lie. Clearly I've been careful to speak only about those who adhere to the more extreme forms of islam.

You make out that this imagined muslim community colludes with all this as it is governed by some sort of elder mafia. In fact you googled the web and found examples ,amongst them Iran ,and this would suggest that these lads are somehow being kept up to date with Iranian clerical decisions that justify this sought of behaviour.
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Iran? We're talking about Pakistan/UK

You claim to have seen more of this little world of ours than many on here and this has included visits to Muslim countries and when not engineering during the day in your role as DJ in Bradford you saw pimps wearing Islamic symbols who also had in their houses tapes ( how quaint in this digital age) of Muslim hate preachers.
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I said no such thing. If lying and creating strawmen is going to typify your "argument" then this will be a very dull pointless exercise.

Show me where I said I was DJ'ing on this thread. Show me where I said I saw tapes in people houses. Go on.

The fact that from the 1930s through to the 1950s the Maltese were disproportionately involved in pimping in this country can be dismissed cos they weren't Muslim, the fact that Rasta emblem bearing blacks were involved in pimping and prostitution in the 70s and 80s can be dismissed because they weren't Muslim, the fact that East Europeans have a large stake in human trafficking and organised prostitution can be dismissed because they are Muslim.
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Why should they be dismissed? And it is relevant to today? I could quote you 8th century texts to support my argument but it's not relevant to the issue at all.
What is relevant is the notion that the earlier pimps you mentioned chose ONLY UK British underage girls... I seriously doubt that.

The fact that gang rape as a punishment and initiation is use by wannabee street gangs ( mainly in London , is it something in the water?) can be dismissed because most of them aren't Muslim gangs.The fact that the percentage of sex offenders who are Asian ( and lets say that the majority of asians might declare their religion as Muslim) is half that of the Asian percentage of the population is irrelevant because it doesn't suit the story about street grooming , rape , prostitution being integral to being a Muslim or indeed joinng the sexual jihad against the indigenous citizens of the UK as I think you put it earlier.
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Again with the pathetic strawman. Show me where I said "street grooming, rape ,prostitution is integral to being a Muslim" and I'll address it. But I didn't of course.

There is a history of kids in care being exploited for prostitution, sexual abuse and recruited into crime gangs. Its happened for years ,they go missing sometimes they die of drug abuse sometimes they get murdered. 42% of prostitutes have been in care. Its not often in the press. Who has groomed them over the years ? Well mainly people who can spot someone with low self esteem, easily influenced and flattered to have any attention. it hasn't been a historical criteria that they be Muslim.
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Again nobody to my knowledge has said any such thing. Why are you making this shit up?

The difference here is that so called professionals didn't speak out because they feared being called racist. Griffin and the BNP campaigned on it three years ago ,i don't know if it was debated on here but it was discussed on other boards and I and others contributed then on the line that it would be too simple to dismiss the BNP claims just because they came from the BNP. In the main there was a refusal by many to even consider the possibility .
Perhaps you felt it safer to come out when Straw said it, even though your experiences as a night time DJ in Bradford told you all that time ago that this was all linked to Islam?
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What does it matter. I don't recall it being discussed here before, it may have been. It's being discussed now though... And again with the DJ stuff, where do you get the idea I was a DJ in Bradford? Not from this thread.

There is no doubt in my mind that Asian males are disproportionately involved in street grooming at this period in time . The problem is that they see these vulnerbale girls not as equals but inferior beings who can be bought and sold and deserve this sort of abuse. I am sure that someone somewhere in Islam deplores the sexual deparvity of western society but so did Mary Whitehouse . The idea of slags getting what they deserve, of bought sexual favours and threats of violence against the more vulnerable isn't religous based its backward reactionary sexism and in these lads case you can add racist sterotyping.The fact that they targeted those at the bottom of the pile shows where they saw the opportunity to abuse.
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So you see no link at all with the notion that in certain misapplications of old islamic texts that there is perhaps a religious precedent and justification for their actions?

Your theory on it comes close to the explanations that some people put on the overepresentation of black youth in some parts of London in mugging as it was called then , some thought it was cultural, some thought it was in their genes and some liberal types thought apparently this was to do with fighting colonialism. Not just picking on those who you think you can frighten with a bit of patois but fighting colonialism. In this case its picking on those that you can get away with abusing its not fighting a sexual jihad against the kaffir.
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I happen to think there is an added "frisson" for these rapists in knowing they are defiling the children of "the enemy". We are at war after all, both geographically and ideologically, with this aggressive form of islam.

You fucking love it.
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I do actually.
 
DrRingDing said:
Don't be paranoid. You been been toking again?
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Nope. You?

Seems strange to elect to "bide your time" and try to wreck the thread by bringing up ancient threads that have no relevance.

Almost like you're now very disappointed that nobody has bitten - in fact one poster with whom I have a solid history of long running battles is in fact now calling your shit out for what it is.

You're on your own. Deal with it or fuck off. :)
 
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