Unite General Secretary Election

[splonkydoo]

Graham is over the Branch nomination line:

What happens next? Do all members get a free vote now at a later election?

 

[Smokeandsteam]

What happens next? Do all members get a free vote now at a later election?

Branch nomination period closes next week (7 June). Members vote by post from 5 July to 23 August. Result announced on 26 August.

 

[andysays]

Branch nomination period closes next week (7 June). Members vote by post from 5 July to 23 August. Result announced on 26 August.

Has your Branch decided yet who you're going to nominate?

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Has your Branch decided yet who you're going to nominate?

Tomorrow. I predict Turner. I will be arguing for Graham. Others Beckett.

 

[belboid]

Labour staffers in Unite held their nomination meeting last night, the result:

Coyne: 46, Turner: 11, Beckett: 11, Graham: 1.

Makes me think I definitely backed the right person in Graham.

 

[ska invita]

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[krink]

Not sure how to put tweets here but...

 

[belboid]

Not sure how to put tweets here but...

All about money to deselect anti-corbynites, apparently. Signed off by one H Beckett

Unite union reported to police over cash for ‘plot to oust anti-Corbyn MPs’

A Labour MP has reported the party’s biggest union donor to the police over allegations that it did not declare its spending on a campaign to oust opponents of

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[hitmouse]

Has anyone told her that no-one likes a grass?

 

[belboid]

Has anyone told her that no-one likes a grass?

She hasn’t given a flying fuck what anyone thinks for years

 

[Dom Traynor]

Take her to an Amagh farmhouse for wirecutter and fingertips action.

 

[belboid]

Looks like all four have enough nominations. I would hope the left candidates with the fewest nominations would pull out. But they won’t.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Looks like all four have enough nominations. I would hope the left candidates with the fewest nominations would pull out. But they won’t.

Got the number of nominations for each candidate Belboid? Coyne must be rubbing his hands together at the thought of facing 3 candidates fighting over the same vote

 

[hitmouse]

Graun article, doesn't have any actual figures though: Centre-left Unite union leadership candidate through to final ballot

 

[belboid]

Got the number of nominations for each candidate Belboid? Coyne must be rubbing his hands together at the thought of facing 3 candidates fighting over the same vote

Nothing final yet, nominations close tomorrow.

left negotiations are gonna be fun.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Nothing final yet, nominations close tomorrow.

left negotiations are gonna be fun.

Yeah, I was wondering if there was some leaking you'd picked up on.

As for the left negotiations... I'd say ugly is the better term.

 

[belboid]

Sounds like Graham is leading, Turner is well clear of the minimum and Beckett is notably behind both with coyne just scraping over. But it’s all gossip (other than Coynes, he’s just delighted to have got the numbers and is telling everybody)

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Sounds like Graham is leading, Turner is well clear of the minimum and Beckett is notably behind both with coyne just scraping over. But it’s all gossip (other than Coynes, he’s just delighted to have got the numbers and is telling everybody)

Obvious who needs to drop out if that’s the case. The guardian story seems to suggest Graham will get the fewest nominations of the 3 though.

 

[belboid]

Obvious who needs to drop out if that’s the case. The guardian story seems to suggest Graham will get the fewest nominations of the 3 though.

Who are they getting their info from? Head office I presume who veer towards the blokes

 

[Smokeandsteam]

A timely reminder that the election is for the leader of the most important trade union in Britain, not the leader of the Labour Party.

 

[hitmouse]

A timely reminder that the election is for the leader of the most important trade union in Britain, not the leader of the Labour Party.

The fact that they managed to make that list and not include fire and rehire... says a lot.

 

[belboid]

Still validating the last noms I gather, quadruple checking their validity.

Barring them all being pretty much one way HB is last (if the three). Hopefully it’s just a cry to keep some of his priorities on board.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I’ve heard (from a fellow steward who met today with a senior lay bureaucrat in Birmingham backing Turner) that Turner has got the most nominations, then Graham, then Beckett and finally Coyne. We’ll see…

He also said all 3 ‘left’ candidates are agreed that at least one must drop out with the caveat that it’s not them (of course)

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Latest figures (apparently):

GC 189; HB 311; SG 337; ST 510 - 92 noms awaiting validation

 

[hitmouse]

Yep, confirmed here: Steve Turner receives most nominations for Unite GS

 

[hitmouse]

A wee bit catty:

 

[belboid]

Final tallies - ST 525, SG 349, HB 328, GC 196

e2a: sg got 403 noms, but 54 were not verified. Be interesting to know the numbers for the others

 

[Sasaferrato]

I saw in today's Eye that the new GMB man was elected on a 10% turnout, and they are also facing an 'ageism' tribunal for refusing to let someone run because they were to old at 72. Churchill was 77 when he became PM in 1951.

 

[hitmouse]

Final tallies - ST 525, SG 349, HB 328, GC 196

e2a: sg got 403 noms, but 54 were not verified. Be interesting to know the numbers for the others

Yeah, 1 in 8 sounds like quite a high number. Does anyone have any thoughts on how nominations translate to actual support? Like, based on those numbers, it looks like Graham and Beckett could justifiably say that they don't really need to step down to avoid the threat of Coyne winning because no-one'll vote for the twat anyway? Unless he's like... twice as popular among the membership as he is among branch committees?

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Yeah, 1 in 8 sounds like quite a high number. Does anyone have any thoughts on how nominations translate to actual support? Like, based on those numbers, it looks like Graham and Beckett could justifiably say that they don't really need to step down to avoid the threat of Coyne winning because no-one'll vote for the twat anyway? Unless he's like... twice as popular among the membership as he is among branch committees?

In terms of the West Midlands Turner has mopped up in the big industrial branches, Graham has done well in growing areas (clearly linked to her organisation role) and Beckett has won among areas where he was active during his brief stint as the regional baron up here. He could be charcertised as most popular in branches away from the industrial shopfloor eg the community branch

Coyne seems to have gone backwards - given he’s from here and the regional baron before Beckett. For example he’s lost JLR.

However a) the nominations reflect the views of activists. Some nominating meetings saw very very few members involved and b) as we know from the RLB/Burgeon debacle the views of activists and members aren’t always aligned. Coyne will turn his vote out here despite the activists especially in the old AEEU areas which have always been small c conservative here