UK courtroom to hear evidence against the official narrative of 9/11

[cesare]

 

[elbows]

If you are immune to reality, every defeat can still be a morale victory I suppose.

 

[Gingerman]

 

[Ax^]

how the Clangers managed 9/11

 

[Lemon Eddy]

moral victories are the best kind of victories imo

I'm a big fan of immoral gains, myself.

 

[Lemon Eddy]

Campaigner and film maker Tony Rooke claimed a moral victory today

You know, your tireless campaigning that 911 is a giant lie might be more convincing if you didn't quote blatant untruths.

 

[existentialist]

Moral Victory for Protestor who says BBC 9/11 Coverage was False

*splutter* *snigger*

Soooo predictable, I'm sorry to say. Snatching the dry crumbs and chickenbones from what was originally billed as a feast, Jazzz?

Doesn't that jar even very slightly?

 

[fractionMan]

Jesus wept

 

[Roadkill]

Back in Horsham Magistrates Court campaigners have been planning future tactics. Tony Rook's victory, helped by lawyer Mahtab Aziz, implies that the BBC has a case to answer, but expert witnesses including Danish associate professor Niels Harrit were not called due to legal technicalities. However the District Judge would have read their statements before the hearing and taken them into account.

Five observations:

1. The loons can't even spell their own man's name right.
2. It wasn't in any sense a victory: he was hauled up for not paying his TV licence and convicted. The fact the court decided to give him a conditional discharge just means that the District Judge let him off lightly for reasons best known to himself.
3. The above being so, it doesn't imply the BBC has any case to answer.
4. Not calling Neils Harrit was not a 'legal technicality.' The charge was not paying the TV licence: everything else is irrelevant. If everyone in court on a minor charge was allowed to pontificate about whatever they felt like, the system would grind to a halt.
5. Why 'would' the District Judge have read Harrit and the others' statements, except perhaps out of curiosity?

And that's just from one paragraph...

 

[prunus]

...
Tony Rook's victory, helped by lawyer Mahtab Aziz, implies that the BBC has a case to answer,
...

Does it bollocks. And it's not a victory. Which makes for a nice little bit of logic.

A implies B
A doesn't exist
not-A however doesn't imply not-B (from the initial statement), it simply has nothing to say about B

 

[littlebabyjesus]

He lost in that he has to pay the licence. He lost in that he has also has to pay the court costs. He lost in that he received a conditional discharge, meaning that further trouble will lead to a much bigger punishment.

In short, he lost.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Jazzz - how about you explain, in your own words rather than cut and paste from a loon site, how this result is in any way a "victory"?

 

[Remus Harbank]

I like loons.

 

[mrs quoad]

afaict, the Mail is the only mainstream press to've taken this up so far

District Judge Stephen Nicholls said: 'This is not a public inquiry into 9/11. This is an offence under section 363 of the Communications Act.'

 

[Spymaster]

Back in Horsham Magistrates Court campaigners have been planning future tactics. Tony Rook's victory, helped by lawyer Mahtab Aziz, implies that the BBC has a case to answer, but expert witnesses including Danish associate professor Niels Harrit were not called due to legal technicalities. However the District Judge would have read their statements before the hearing and taken them into account.

This is some seriously delusional shit. None of the above bears any relation to what has actually happened in real life.

Conditional discharges are often used in political cases to indicate that the accused, though technically guilty, occupies the moral high ground.

No they're not!

Magistrates: "Let's give him one of those 'moral high-ground' sentences"!

 

[Yelkcub]

 

[butchersapron]

So let us see - we predicted exactly how the case would go, we predicted exactly what the loons would say afterwards - and i think it's fair to say that we predicted exactly how jazzz would behave once the case crumbled.

 

[Teaboy]

I do however like the idea that not being able to call a witness because he/she has notning to do with the case is a 'legal technicality'. I'd have got off that £60 speeding fine if I only I was allowed to call the pope as a witness!

 

[butchersapron]

I do however like the idea that not being able to call a witness because he/she has notning to do with the case is a 'legal technicality'. I'd have got off that £60 speeding fine if I only I was allowed to call the pope as a witness!

Can a juror come to a verdict based on a reason that was not presented in court and has no facts or evidence to support it, either from the prosecution or defence?

(that said, don't take that as sneering at that jury, they did the exact right thing)

 

[DotCommunist]

afaict, the Mail is the only mainstream press to've taken this up so far

theres the obligatoryV mask after all

 

[editor]

theres the obligatoryV mask after all

I bet they're all demolition experts too, and very well versed in the practical uses of thermite.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

The fact the court decided to give him a conditional discharge just means that the District Judge let him off lightly for reasons best known to himself.

I suspect most likely because that's what they give to everyone they see who hasn't paid their TV licence.

 

[existentialist]

This is some seriously delusional shit. None of the above bears any relation to what has actually happened in real life.



No they're not!

Magistrates: "Let's give him one of those 'moral high-ground' sentences"!

I rather like the way that Jazzz's chums have unilaterally decided that it's a" political case" despite the fact that the judge couldn't have made it clearer that he was having no truck with all the "BBC = terrorists" guff.

 

[Yelkcub]

I suspect most likely because that's what they give to everyone they see who hasn't paid their TV licence.

That's how they cover it up, yes. With the millions other cases treated exactly the same so you don't notice this one

 

[JimW]

I think we need to see this more as a moral score draw with away goals counting double.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I think we need to see this more as a moral score draw with away goals counting double.

It's not gone to penalties, though, has it? Eh? Costs isn't even a fine really. Not when you think about it. And a conditional discharge is like, well, it's as good as getting off.

He's had two players sent off, but he's still in there fighting. 9 v 11.

 

[JimW]

I've not had any more of that conditional discharge since that course of antibiotics.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I just discharged all over my pants. What a condition.

 

[Yelkcub]

I've decided to read Jazzzz threads from now on. This is hilarious

 

[butchersapron]

His best song - from 2 minutes in: