Transgender is it just me that is totally perplexed?

[weepiper]

What is the point. "defend the she wolf" because punching terfs is the way forward. Why not also taunt your enemy with 'you hideous ugly terf'. Inspiring stuff.

Doing a great job of convincing me that I'm the bad feminist, with that chat.

 

[bimble]

The she wolf pleaded not guilty apparently so there'll be a trial in a couple of months.

 

[elbows]

What is the point. "defend the she wolf" because punching terfs is the way forward. Why not also taunt your enemy with 'you hideous ugly terf'. Inspiring stuff.

Perhaps you were inspired more by 'the bulge' comments along with associated panning down of camera.

 

[bimble]

Don't do that. I have been clear that i personally think dr rad is an idiot and not helping anyone.

 

[elbows]

Don't do that. I have been clear that i personally think dr rad is an idiot and not helping anyone.

OK, I genuinely apologise then because I was not aware that was your precise take on dr rad.

Obviously I did want to draw attention to that part of the video because I thought it was telling, but it is wrong of me to attempt to transplant related feelings to specific people on this thread.

 

[bimble]

Something more hopeful: a thoughtful and almost optimistic thread covering the meeting yesterday (you have to click to read whole thing)

 

[smokedout]

Instead of saying read it if you want but here's why we think its wrong and you should not follow the advice it gives, there's just a lot of this sort of thing instead. oh dear.
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They are a very nasty group who spend much of their time trying to play down studies which show trans children are more likely to commit suicide jumping through so many hoops to do so that they end up claiming that 100% of young female to male trans men have suicidal thoughts but this proves there isn't really a high trans suicide rate because these are all lesbians really.

The high rates of depression, suicidal behaviour and anxiety trans kids face have been well documented throughout the world in numerous studies. There is also growing evidence that socially and parentally supported transition brings the best outcomes. You may not agree with that approach, but to distort evidence in advice to parents in a way that might endanger young people's mental health puts them in the same league as the worst kind of reparative therapy fundamentalists.

 

[Sea Star]

This thread says it all... I consider that pamphlet to be hate literature, full of lies, probably illegal, and it will hurt a lot of children if not stopped in its tracks.

 

[elbows]

Don't do that. I have been clear that i personally think dr rad is an idiot and not helping anyone.

By the way, I can only face reading the output of dr radfem rather infrequently, so I might miss news about that documentary she claims to have done a deal to make. If you or anyone else come across any updates on that one, please let us know, it would be most appreciated. In part because I can barely read more than a sentence of dr radfems output, or see anything of her interacting hatefully on video, without my mind being totally boggled at how she will manage to produce something that can pass basic ofcom broadcast standards. To the extent I'm almost half expecting her to announce that the documentary partner is actually Louis Theroux, under which circumstances I somehow suspect the documentary will not exactly be what she envisaged

 

[bimble]

It’ll probably be as divisive and sensationalist as possible if there’s a tv show about these issues who chose her for a starring role. It’s my impression that it’s getting easier to find sane articulate voices on all sides recently so not really any point them picking her unless it’s to maximise drama .

 

[elbows]

Doing a great job of convincing me that I'm the bad feminist, with that chat.

There doesnt seem to be all that much convincing accomplished by either side when they take the high ground, so its no surprise that theres even less to be found when the low ground is sought by both sides.

I am not well read in theories about fighting intolerance with intolerance, but there are other obvious examples where this seems to be an accepted, legit strategy, so I'm not surprised to see the same on these fronts.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

This thread says it all... I consider that pamphlet to be hate literature, full of lies, probably illegal, and it will hurt a lot of children if not stopped in its tracks.

Hurt is an understatement.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

This this this. By the time I was in 6th year most of the group I hung out with were gay or bisexual. We still are! That we didn't have to hide for another 10 years WAS A GOOD THING.

 

[smokedout]

This this this. By the time I was in 6th year most of the group I hung out with were gay or bisexual. We still are! That we didn't have to hide for another 10 years WAS A GOOD THING.

But what if a child thought they were gay for a bit then realised they weren't? Haven't you thought of that eh?

 

[TopCat]

It's not 'taking domperidone while breastfeeding'. It's taking domperidone, progesterone and estrogen to induce lactation in someone who would never otherwise be able to produce milk. It's not a valid comparison.

This

 

[TopCat]

This case isn't a "dude" - she's a woman.

In what way?

 

[elbows]

I note that the BBC have reported on the breastfeeding story, and have a small additional uk angle. I'm entirely unsurprised if there has been some uk cases already, as per my waffling on about per-GP/specialist basis to many decisions and not having seen anything published not being proof it hasnt already been done and just not shouted about.

Dr Channa Jayasena, a senior lecturer at Imperial College who specialises in reproductive endocrinology, said the research was an "exciting development".

He said he had heard of a few cases in the UK of transgender women being helped to breastfeed, but until now no report has been published.

Dr Jayasena added: "What we really need to do is pool together these cases and share our knowledge, to find the best recipe for breastfeeding in these patients without exposing them to any health risks."

Transgender woman 'breastfeeds baby'

 

[TopCat]

Tomorrow.. a call for uncritical support (particularly from biological women) outside the court where the incident at beginning of this thread is going to be heard. Rally round to defend the person accused of assault from the violence of the terfs..Is this really a good idea?
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The accused is pretty fragile and surrounded by gleeful trans activists.

 

[TopCat]

Meanwhile, here is a terf video take on todays activity outside westminster court. Some audible comments and the direction the camera points at times is just further confirmation of the rancid nature of this overt transphobe.

They were all at it. Same tactics both sides.

 

[Sea Star]

I note that the BBC have reported on the breastfeeding story, and have a small additional uk angle. I'm entirely unsurprised if there has been some uk cases already, as per my waffling on about per-GP/specialist basis to many decisions and not having seen anything published not being proof it hasnt already been done and just not shouted about.



Transgender woman 'breastfeeds baby'

I know of at least one transgender mum who breast fed her baby several years ago. This is not news.

 

[TopCat]

I know of at least one transgender mum who breast fed her baby several years ago. This is not news.

It is news.

 

[pengaleng]

wow yer all not aware people can lactate and it's old old news, we had this with the whole gay dads thing and the yoghurt weaving hippies < which is actually embarrassing considering this is urbans where they all hide out

also just because ones body produces fluid it does not mean you'll be able to feed anyone with it cus it might turn out they dont like you

no one mention gynaecomastia or the fact that men have nipples because all zygotes are female

 

[8ball]

It is news.

The confusion seems to be over the "news" bit.
It is the first properly documented case.

There seem to be fewer specific properly documented cases of bears shitting in woods than you might expect, too.

 

[pengaleng]

who the fuck cares????

someone who aint you is producing milk to feed a child, what the fucks it got to do with anyone else??

and they say cis privilege is a load of shit...

 

[8ball]

who the fuck cares????

The BBC.

 

[pengaleng]

The BBC.

yous still actively engage with the media? lol

everyone should be giving the bbc the finger imo for their freak of nature reporting.

 

[8ball]

yous still actively engage with the media?

Well, I'm posting on here...

 

[pengaleng]

ahhhh I'm only part time at best

 

[8ball]

ahhhh I'm only part time at best

The BBC are notably shoddy when it comes to science journalism to be fair, but this is disappointing:

Transgender woman is first to be able to breastfeed her baby

 

[pengaleng]

god that post about painfully pointing out the said individual was able to produce milk due to a load of drugs.... sit down for this one.... , did you know some people cant produce insulin without drugs? (first one to whine about it keeping em alive and is necessary -20 liberal points)

I aint reading that cus the news is poison and it really aint news to me.