Transgender is it just me that is totally perplexed?

[pengaleng]

It's not nice to be intolerant of the viscous, after all. Some just have a different pace of thinking.

well I was gonna say unless they mean thick

 

[co-op]

Great bantz lads.

 

[pengaleng]

sir bantingdon of banterbury

 

[Sea Star]

isn't calling it out engaging with it?

Do you think so?

 

[Sea Star]

And it's my right to debate and discuss the issues raised by transactivists campaigns, if you don't want to engage with that, fine, but just shouting 'transphobe' and running away is pointless imo.



It's complex because to be 'non-transphobic' the demand appears to be that everyone else meekly accepts that the entire parameters of the debate be set by one side. So if you don't accept that, then by definition you're a transphobe.

Hating, shunning, trying to fuck up transpeople = transphobia for sure. Bullying misgendering, etc etc likewise. I don't do any of those things and I'd happily bet I've had far more interaction with transpeople than most people, they have been in my life since the 1980s; but according to many on this thread, I'm a transphobe. If I am then the term is just a political slur, it's meaningless.

Ok. Noted.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Great bantz lads.

I think we seem to have found our natural rhythm of being arrogant and rude as fuck whilst having a laugh. This might turn out to be The Thread of the Year.

 

[co-op]

I think we seem to have found our natural rhythm of being arrogant and rude as fuck whilst having a laugh. This might turn out to be The Thread of the Year.

There's nothing like a bit of performative adolescent masculinity to establish your credentials for telling feminists to shut up.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

There's nothing like a bit of performative adolescent masculinity to establish your credentials for telling feminists to shut up.

I like performative adolescent masculinity especially when it is accompanied by a natal cis vagina, like mine. Now fuck up and listen

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

*my lack of politics forthwith is due to flying off Night shift number 3, is the GIF thread still up? I should scurry off there.

 

[Pickman's model]

Do you think so?

i think it may be

 

[pengaleng]

oh snap

 

[co-op]

I like performative adolescent masculinity especially when it is accompanied by a natal cis vagina, like mine. Now fuck up and listen

That's meant to be a killer point? On a thread about gender and sex?

Sheesh.

 

[Miranda Yardley]

It's already doing it. You can't fool everyone the whole of the time

A key tactic in this debate is to reframe disagreement as hate. What this does is to let the transactivist off the hook when it comes to providing evidence to defend their argument. It's just another way of suffocating debate.

 

[pengaleng]

i am going to watch hollyoaks, it's way more inclusive than this thread.

 

[Treacle Toes]

That's meant to be a killer point? On a thread about gender and sex?

Sheesh.

It's a reaction to you calling people entitled, stereotypical men.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

That's meant to be a killer point? On a thread about gender and sex?

Sheesh.

YES! KILLER!

I wrote an essay in response to soc fem vs rad fem. Ama return to that after more sleep. This is bantz tuesday.

 

[Pickman's model]

YES! KILLER!

I wrote an essay in response to soc fem vs rad fem. Ama return to that after more sleep. This is bantz tuesday.

yes, after st george bantz, who was martyred for his faith on this day in 1412

he refused to shut up after winning an argument with transylvanian heretics and in rage they ripped him limb from limb

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

i am going to watch hollyoaks, it's way more inclusive than this thread.

Eastenders is my alternative to chemical sedation. Use it wisely, but it sure helps

 

[Sea Star]

i think it may be

Ok.

 

[co-op]

It's a reaction to you calling people entitled, stereotypical men.

That answer was utterly explicitly to one poster and not to HoratioCuthbert and it's extremely dishonest of you to suggest otherwise. But no surprise to me.

 

[bimble]

a natal cis vagina

 

[Treacle Toes]

That answer was utterly explicitly to one poster and not to HoratioCuthbert and it's extremely dishonest of you to suggest otherwise..

Also see... for example...

'Top bantz lads'

But no surprise to me

ohhhhhhh ouchhhhhhhy.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

That answer was utterly explicitly to one poster and not to HoratioCuthbert and it's extremely dishonest of you to suggest otherwise. But no surprise to me.

Do you think slightly mistaken might work just as well in that sentence, cope?

 

[co-op]

Also see... for example...

'Top bantz lads'

PM isn't a bloke? Pengaleng isn't a bloke?

I'd accept that you made an honest mistake but when you try and justify it, you're just a liar.

 

[elbows]

A key tactic in this debate is to reframe disagreement as hate. What this does is to let the transactivist off the hook when it comes to providing evidence to defend their argument. It's just another way of suffocating debate.

If anyone elses evidence is of the same quality as yours I'd rather they didnt bother providing it.

Key tactic my wobbly arse. Mind you, if you do want to talk about key tactics you've certainly demonstrated a few yourself. eg suggesting people support violence against women, which falls on its face in record time when the technique is performed as crudely as you managed earlier in the thread.

 

[co-op]

Do you think slightly mistaken might work just as well in that sentence, cope?

Not when she tries to prove that she's right, as she just has done. She has form.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I'd accept that you made an honest mistake but when you try and justify it, you're just a liar.

Double ouchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy!

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Double ouchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy!

Sick burn yo

 

[Treacle Toes]

Not when she tries to prove that she's right, as she just has done. She has form.

When you've worked out the gaff you made we'll talk about it...till then

 

[Vintage Paw]

i dont think they meant viscous, maybe vicious

To be fair it is also viscous, trying to wade through that sludge of hate.