Trans Day Of Visibility

[Athos]

Let me see. Repeatedly retweeted me out of context to claim I was a misogynist man. Set up a website to imply I might be a child abuser changing gender to escape justice. Wrote to the Green Party to get me deselected because I maintained I was a woman and they claimed this was misogyny. And so on. I'd say they were TERF arguments based on TERF doctrines. I think you need to stop worrying about what bigots think and start worrying about the people they attack.
Basically, one of them just trolls trans women who are probably.quite vulnerable and tries to undermine their confidence. I'm beyond this now because I know who I am.

If that's true, those people are scumbags. But that doesn't mean that everyone who disagrees with you is a TERF. My experience is that you're too quick to call people that, which is counterproductive (albeit that I understand why you do it).

 

[Athos]

I think trans people are the ones who get to decide who the allies are. I don't see you as one.

That's because you're a fucking idiot.

 

[Sea Star]

That's because you're a fucking idiot.

thankyou...

There's a reason why i usually have you on ignore.

 

[Athos]

thankyou for your support.

I support your rights as a trans woman. But, regardless of your gender, I think you're a twat.

 

[Sea Star]

If that's true, those people are scumbags. But that doesn't mean that everyone who disagrees with you is a TERF. My experience is that you're too quick to call people that, which is counterproductive (albeit that I understand why you do it).

You always assume I'm lying. You always have. You've been nothing but undermining since I started posting on here. I'd rather be an idiot than a shitbag like you.

 

[Sea Star]

I support your rights as a trans woman. But, regardless of your gender, I think you're a twat.

Then please do fuck off. Bye.

 

[Athos]

You always assume I'm lying. You always have. You've been nothing but undermining since I started posting on here. I'd rather be an idiot than a shitbag like you.

More lies.

 

[Sea Star]

I think if someone is told they are not an ally the correct response is to ask why, not to call the person an idiot and a twat.

 

[Athos]

Then please do fuck off. Bye.

Put me back on ignore if you like.

 

[Athos]

I think if someone is told they are not an ally the correct response is to ask why, not to call the personal an idiot and a twat.

I know why; we've interacted before. It's because you're a liar, and a twat.

 

[Sea Star]

I know why; we've interacted before. It's because you're a liar, and a twat.

Wow

 

[Sea Star]

Another thread I have to ignore because Athos has a problem with me....

 

[Athos]

Another thread I have to ignore because Athos has a problem with me....

More precisely, a problem with your lies.

 

[krtek a houby]

Another thread I have to ignore because Athos has a problem with me....

No, you don't have to ignore the thread - just put him on ignore & carry on with the thread. I used to have that problem with 2 or 3 posters - once they're on ignore you don't have to read their disruptive, combatitive crap anymore.

 

[toggle]

My bf is a bit of a techy as are many trans people - so we managed to work out a lot of this activity came from a few individuals. One of them is a trans woman and I even know where she lives. But I'm better than her.
Another one was Cathy Brennan and we managed to get in touch and convince her to back down.
The upshot of this was I had to endure a shit storm of abuse on Twitter (and a mention in national media) while trying to run an election campaign.

i'd ask what the fuck posesses someone trans to attack like that. but i suspect i can make a pretty good guess.

well done for getting brennan to fuck off though. i've heard that takes some doing. reckon getting her to stfu has to count as a tick in the win column.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Another thread I have to ignore because Athos has a problem with me....

Just put him on ignore. You don't have to ignore the whole thread. It's your thread!

 

[Sea Star]

Just put him on ignore. You don't have to ignore the whole thread. It's your thread!

I know, but I had to take him off ignore to see what everyone was talking about.
He's back on again now.

 

[toggle]

I know why; we've interacted before. It's because you're a liar, and a twat.

while there can be a time and a place for calling someone a twat, this sure as hell isn't it.

 

[Athos]

No, you don't have to ignore the thread - just put him on ignore & carry on with the thread. I used to have that problem with 2 or 3 posters - once they're on ignore you don't have to read their disruptive, combatitive crap anymore.

She knows that, of course; it's just another disingenuous attempt to cast herself so the victim, and turn others against anyone who disagrees with her.

 

[krtek a houby]

She knows that, of course; it's just another disingenuous attempt to cast herself so the victim, and turn others against anyone who disagrees with her.

Why would she do that?

 

[Sea Star]

She knows that, of course; it's just another disingenuous attempt to cast herself so the victim, and turn others against anyone who disagrees with her.

This is someone who claims to be an ally? Sounds like trans misogyny to me.

 

[Athos]

Why would she do that?

Because she's taken umbrage that I've disagreed with her in the past. To the extent that, notwithstanding my repeated pro-trans comments, she's dishonestly tried to smear me as a TERF.

 

[Athos]

This is someone who claims to be an ally? Sounds like trans misogyny to me.

Being an ally for trans rights doesn't require me to like, agree with, or believe every trans person.

 

[krtek a houby]

Because she's taken umbrage that I've disagreed with her in the past. To the extent that, notwithstanding my repeated pro-rata comments, she's dishonestly tried to smear me so a TERF.

Ok; I'll leave you to it, so. I'm not going to get caught up in any personal feuds. Try and come to some kind of peaceful solution if you can.

 

[Wilf]

Ian McEwan criticised by campaigners over transgender remarks
Ian McEwan's 'contribution'. Always had a suspicion that a twat hid behind his rather misanthropic books.

 

[Athos]

Ok; I'll leave you to it, so. I'm not going to get caught up in any personal feuds. Try and come to some kind of peaceful solution if you can.

She claims to have me on ignore, so that should be the end of it. Not sure I believe her though, so she keeps replying!

 

[Wilf]

Being an ally for trans rights doesn't require me to like, agree with or believe every trans person.

But being a decent human being should stop you picking a fight, as you have been doing on this thread. Give it a rest.

 

[Treacle Toes]

But being a decent human being should stop you picking a fight, as you have been doing on this thread. Give it a rest.

This.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

Please, I was find this thread very informative having only just learned the meaning if cis. I hate it when threads become uncivil, I know people have long running er, disagreements, but most of the thread has been good for an uninformed, unthinking cis gendered gay middle aged white man.

 

[Athos]

But being a decent human being should stop you picking a fight, as you have been doing on this thread. Give it a rest.

Yeah, fair enough. She pisses me off, but I shouldn't engage with this shit, especially if it derails an interesting thread.