Traitors '25 Starts 1/1/25 8pm

[Agent Sparrow]

I don’t think Traitors has jumped the shark yet but the things raised in this article are definitely an issue, yet it’s hard to see how they can be escaped without (impossibly) banning future contestants from watching the last show.

I think they should move on to creating actual clues for people to find - more of the murdering in plain sight and keeping anything like the picture around to be found afterwards. Otherwise it is just a popularity contest based on increasingly wild supposition, which will begin to get boring. Though the latter is the reality TV way so I’m not hopeful.

Human beings are capable of both being wonderfully cooperative and viciously selfish. One of the great things about Traitors S1 is how much the cooperation side came out*. Missions designed to bring out selfishness are a bit like eating dirty junk food - good in the moment but then leaving a bad taste in your mouth.

Damn it, I don’t want to go on the Traitors, I want to get on the team for planning it.





*E2A: though I do also recall that initial banishments and nominations were dodgy as fuck - a disabled woman who didn’t toast as she didn’t have a hand the side of the glass and men who were socially different

 

[May Kasahara]

Yeah, one of my favourite things about last year was how the missions always brought people together during the day - there was a real sense of shared motivation and teamwork, and everyone happily celebrating together at the end. Then you'd see them on the way back to the castle slowly coming down from that and realising they'd have to start looking for traitors among the group again. It was an interesting dynamic, and I do think it made people concentrate a bit more on looking for actual signs, as well as remembering that it's just a game and you're meant to have fun.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

One of my favourite missions from S3 was the wicker man one, because all (the faithfuls) were working together to escape murder and there was a dilemma for the traitors and an early chance for them to slip up. Whereas the boat one, which mixed that idea with the train idea, was a shit show.

 

[tommers]

If I was I there I'd just say Joe at every roundtable. No tactics, no reasons or theories. Just "Joe" until everybody voted for him.

 

[Numbers]

If I was I there I'd just say Joe at every roundtable. No tactics, no reasons or theories. Just "Joe" until everybody voted for him.

He’s annoying isn’t he.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

If I was I there I'd just say Joe at every roundtable. No tactics, no reasons or theories. Just "Joe" until everybody voted for him.

I am just waiting for someone to have the honesty to say “I don’t think you’re a traitor, I just don’t like you”

 

[ElizabethofYork]

He’s annoying isn’t he.

Very annoying. And he gets everything wrong.

 

[Lotte]

Yeah, one of my favourite things about last year was how the missions always brought people together during the day - there was a real sense of shared motivation and teamwork, and everyone happily celebrating together at the end. Then you'd see them on the way back to the castle slowly coming down from that and realising they'd have to start looking for traitors among the group again. It was an interesting dynamic, and I do think it made people concentrate a bit more on looking for actual signs, as well as remembering that it's just a game and you're meant to have fun.

We got a bit of that with the statues, when Jake opened up to Alexander about his cerebral palsy.

 

[ska invita]

Because it isn’t true, that’s why. The orders do get mixed up, but more importantly, the producers shoot shitloads of versions but only show us one.

From this afternoons grauniad:

Several problems here, though. For a start, it’s not true. Exceptions to the rule happen, with near-misses arriving early or Traitors arriving late. Ex-contestants have also debunked it, saying producers mix up the arrival order. They can also film multiple permutations or reshuffle it in the edit for dramatic effect. The magic of television, innit.

how can you reshoot everyone coming in for breakfast? you can see the table filling up and you can see the drama as they wait for the last person to arrive? You cant do all that and say, right eveyrone out, we're doing another take from the top