Tory minister for civil society Brooks Newmark resigns after sex scandal

[Doctor Carrot]

I'm pretty pleased this cunt's gone. He was one of the more smug, dismissive and vile of the current shower. My sympathy for his private life or whatever is precisely zero. He's part of a government that has ruined the lives of hundreds of thousands of people and he would've been quite happy to carry on doing so had he not been caught with his todger out.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Let's be honest, it's the fact that he's a tory that is achieving support here. If this had been Saint Livingstone, or Sir Robert of Crowe, back in the day, U75 would be shitting flames of rectal indignation at press entrapment.

Livingstone not so much, Crowe maybe. Yeah it's a tory, one from this current shower so yeah I really have zero fucking sympathy for the prick. I'm only disappointed it wasn't Iain Duncan Smith and that it wasn't cut off, set on fire and then shoved up his own arse.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

No. Manufacture. Totally.

He was the one going through his twitter feed and responding to the fit blond, do you imagine this bloke would have been so eager to reply if it was you following him?

How was this "random"?

They had never met. Apart from porn, and one woman in Brighton one night, I have never seen the genitals of someone I have not been formally introduced to. It's bad manners man.

The Mirror

expressly contrived to obtain a picture of his tool in order to dob him up. A picture that would never have existed had they not encouraged it by subterfuge.

And they ousted a wholly incompetent minister. For once the Mirror done good.

Let's be honest, it's the fact that he's a tory that is achieving support here. If this had been Saint Livingstone, or Sir Robert of Crowe, back in the day, U75 would be shitting flames of rectal indignation at press entrapment.

Not guilty m'lud.

Hate any fucker who sets their stall out as superior to the rest of us, yet has the personal morality of an ally cat.

I'm not one to judge your behavior, do what you fucking well like, no matter how it affects people that don't concern me. The moment you want to start being some politico cunt, telling the rest of us what we should and shouldn't do, well, that's another matter and your personal conduct must be beyond reproach, or else expect to be exposed as the hypocrite that you are and expect no mercy.

 

[Theisticle]

Well... These tweets are rather suspect:

 

[Theisticle]

[UPDATE 1620 hours: For those still not persuaded that Alex Wickham was a little previous in letting the world know about the Sunday Mirror story, the timing of his Tweet should be noted: 1805 hours yesterday.

Compare that with the first notification from Vincent Moss, whose name is on the story's by-line: he does not Tweet out the news until 1905 hours - a whole hour later than Wickham.

And Matthew Drake, the other name on the by-line, does not Tweet it out until 20 minutes after Moss: 1925 hours. So how come Wickham knows all about it, and so early in the evening, if he had nothing to do with it? No pressure]

http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/brooks-newmark-nasty-tasting-sting.html

 

[Jollity Farm]

As I say, I don't have that much sympathy for Newmark - this isn't quite the same situation as with the pictures of the female celebrities that were stolen from iCloud. He had sent out his picture to a person, entirely in the expectation that a complete stranger would have seen it. On the other hand, some of the Mirror tactics seem a bit unpleasant - they used a picture of a random model, and another of someone else on Twitter, and we don't know if they had consented to that (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/brooks-newmark-resignation#2wvmsip). Also, I am suddenly reminded of the days when police forces had "pretty police" to go and lurk around public lavatories waiting to be hit on by men. Perhaps that still goes on, but I'm not a man and I don't hear about it so much these days. Anyway, while I think soliciting sex from strangers in horrible public toilets is probably a bad idea for a number of reasons, having police placed there in the hope of luring an unwitting man into getting it out is also a bad idea, for a number of other reasons.

So yes, while I continue to think Newmark must not have had his brain switched on that day, a moment's contemplation has me thinking that the tabloid press is not clean or decent either, and that I will in no way feel sorry for whoever was responsible for this story at the Mirror if they get in trouble for it - since breaking laws they really ought to have known about as professional journalists is also quite foolish.

 

[maomao]

Let's be honest, it's the fact that he's a tory that is achieving support here. If this had been Saint Livingstone, or Sir Robert of Crowe, back in the day, U75 would be shitting flames of rectal indignation at press entrapment

And if it was a female politician (though admittedly that would be a very different scandal, but it's possible) all the talk would be of victim blaming.

 

[hot air baboon]

paisley is the best of all patterns. if nothing else, we know that at least Newmark has a taste for stylish pyjamas. That must be a mitigating factor surely?

...I'd envisaged something like this only with pics of Ian Paisley...

 

[chemicimbalance]

I'm not going to feel too sorry for him, because:

a) he chose to send out pix of his downstairs to some random on the internet, even though he is a grown man of fifty-six, and a public figure, and this is very soon after a number of famous women had had nude pictures of themselves non-consensually shared over the internet.

b) he resigned of his own accord, as far as I'm aware. Maybe he might have been hounded out of his job had he elected to stay, but since he didn't, we will never know.

But that doesn't mean I'm gloating about it, because the main amusement isn't even really about this. It's about bits falling off the Conservative party vehicle just as they pull into conference. And paisley pyjamas, of course.

What's wrong with paisley pyjamas?? Is a man wearing them too non-gender conforming for your liking (and all the others before you that took the piss)?

 

[weltweit]

What a prize prat that man must be, because of him doing it in this case and being caught out and destroying his political career, we have to assume it is quite likely he has done it before, could this have been the first and only time? So what would persuade a married elected MP and government minister to think it would be a good idea to sent out rude pictures of himself to someone he has never met and who he has actually no idea about at all, I have to return to my first comment, what a prize prat that man must be! I have absolutely no sympathy!

 

[chemicimbalance]

I hate the tories and look forward to their downfall as much as others on here (and this, btw, will sadly do no such thing). But I seriously question the mind set of the freelance journalist that trapped him like this. It suggests self-serving pathological narcissism. I doubt they even did it for political reasons or to expose hypocrisy. More likely they did it for the money or for career reasons and couldn't care less about anything else. Maybe Brooks Newmark is stupid to fall for it. On the other hand, maybe this journalist was incredibly clever in convincing him it was a good idea to send 'her' a picture of his cock? We haven't seen the text messages they exchanged. I find it really disturbing.

 

[teqniq]

Livingstone not so much, Crowe maybe. Yeah it's a tory, one from this current shower so yeah I really have zero fucking sympathy for the prick. I'm only disappointed it wasn't Iain Duncan Smith and that it wasn't cut off, set on fire and then shoved up his own arse.

 

[Wilf]

I'm happy to see a scumbag MP get fucked up, humiliate himself, lose his career - obviously - just fuck the lot of 'em. At the same time, theoretically, I'd agree we have no need to know what consenting adults do in their private lives. Trouble with that line of argument is that he's using power and privilege to pursue that private life. It's pretty obvious that younger, female researchers, interns or whoever wouldn't normally be going anywhere near him in cyberspace or real life. This is the same as expecting bungs, cash for questions, switching mortgages - all about entitlement and advantage.

 

[chemicimbalance]

Why's it "obvious that that younger, female researchers, interns or whoever wouldn't normally be going anywhere near him in cyberspace or real life". Have young, attractive women never had affairs with ageing Tory MPs or other such men before?

 

[Wilf]

Why's it "obvious that that younger, female researchers, interns or whoever wouldn't normally be going anywhere near him in cyberspace or real life". Have young, attractive women never had affairs with ageing Tory MPs or other such men before?

Of course, younger men/women have relationships with older women/men. And who knows, some male MPs may have genuine relationships with those they have a degree of power over (researchers, secretaries, interns). But when you look at the pattern of those relationships it would be absurd to take the power relationship out of the picture. That's why, in varying degrees, pressure and abuse are never far away in a lot of cases - Rennard, Evans etc.

 

[Celyn]

The Paisley Death
Did any good ever come out of Paisley?

The Paisley Snail

The pesky Paisley snail[edit]
Paisley was also the site of an incident that gave rise to a major legal precedent. In a Paisley cafe in 1928, a woman allegedly found a dead snail in a bottle of ginger beer, and became ill. She sued the manufacturer for negligence. At the time a manufacturer was considered liable only if there was a contract in place with the harmed party. However, after Donoghue v Stevenson wound through the courts, a precedent was established that manufacturers (and other "neighbours" or fellow citizens) owe a duty not to do foreseeable harm to others by negligence, regardless of contractual obligations, which paved the way for modern tort law. The case is often called the "Paisley snail."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paisley#The_pesky_Paisley_snail


Also, quite involved in radical stuff in 1820. Not the snail - the people, esp. weavers.

 

[Spymaster]

...because of him doing it in this case and being caught out and destroying his political career, we have to assume it is quite likely he has done it before!

Eh?

That's exactly what we cannot assume.

Unless we're tabloid-driven fucking morons.

Fuckin ell

 

[hot air baboon]

......I understand the key operative was working for the Order-Order politics blog not one of the 'loids as such...

..but difficult to imagine Claire Perry or Rachel Reeves sexting selfies of their minges to some totally random bloke on the chance of a knee trembler over their Commons desk...

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

They had never met. Apart from porn, and one woman in Brighton one night, I have never seen the genitals of someone I have not been formally introduced to. It's bad manners man.

Check PMs

 

[youngian]

It was hardly a sophisticated MOSSAD honey trap. He's been sacked for being a burk for falling for it. Think of the media fallout, stern questions would have been asked on the Wright Stuff and LBC.

 

[brogdale]

Mark Pritchard @MPritchardMP
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Test for IPSO and Met Police. I will write to both today about Sunday Mirror story. Was the criminal law and IPSO Code of Conduct broken?

Hilarious
Keep Nomark's todger at the top of the news agenda.

 

[likesfish]

It was hardly a sophisticated MOSSAD honey trap. He's been sacked for being a burk for falling for it. Think of the media fallout, stern questions would have been asked on the Wright Stuff and LBC.

Tbf honey traps are never terribly sophisticated they don't need to be

 

[Wilf]

Eh?

That's exactly what we cannot assume.

Unless we're tabloid-driven fucking morons.

Fuckin ell

You are right, we can't assume he's done it before. I was travelling much of yesterday so didn't get to read much about this. However I got the idea the freelance behind the story was looking into it because MPs generally use social media to get sex with the 'come up and see my office' line. He might have been unlucky to be a random MP chosen for the sting, or he might have been someone with previous who the journo tried his luck with first. I'd guess at the latter, but yes, we don't know - he might just have been the victim of a general Parliamentary middle aged lechery.

edit: this http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...permit-sunday-mirror-use-photo-brooks-newmark
does suggest he was contacted as one of several MPs, so may have been approached at random. Also, the stuff about using 2 women's images without their consent suggests the journalist was a shit.

 

[Pickman's model]

the journalist was a shit.

would be surprised if the journalist hadn't been a shit tbh

 

[marty21]

apparently Newmark is going to complain to the press regulators

who should reply - don't send cock pics

 

[goldenecitrone]

apparently Newmark is going to complain to the press regulators

The trouser press regulators?

'They broke my flies!'

 

[tony heath]

apparently Newmark is going to complain to the press regulators

I have no-one to blame but myself. I have hurt the thing I care about most.

 

[marty21]

maybe he accidentally took pictures of his cock and accidently attached them to a tweet

he s a VICTIM

 

[Pickman's model]

maybe he accidentally took pictures of his cock and accidently attached them to a tweet

he s a VICTIM

the most shocking thing about this is the discovery that ministers don't have civil servants to do this sort of thing for them.

 

[tony heath]

the most shocking thing about this is the discovery that ministers don't have civil servants to do this sort of thing for them.

The Civil Service couldn't be trusted with all those cocks, they'd probably shred them.