Nancy_Winks
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Exactly. It achieves fuck all except misery.
Tory minister for civil society Brooks Newmark resigns after sex scandal
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ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
That large elements of the press are cunts is hardly news. But the roles of the press is in part to bring matters of public concern to the attention of the public. As he and his party are elected on issues of morality around marriage it is of concern to the people who vote for them or are likely too that their personal conduct conflicts with their policy stance.
I am just enjoying the schadenfreude of a man who wanted less scrutiny of the consequence by charities of his parties policies being caught out violating the morality those policies claim to defend.
dessiato
🇪🇸 españa te quiero
I agree that sex scandals are not exclusively British. What does seem to be so is the way that the press thinks that these indiscretions are a stick to beat people with, even when there is little or no relevance to the person's function. The people who are most likely to suffer in a situation like this are those who are least deserving of this approbation.
SarfLondoner
KenDoddsDadsDogsDead.
He is in a Government that tells people how they should live there lives and how we should behave and do the right thing. Fuck him he is fair game.
coley
Well-Known Member
Loads, but I'm not an MP, stupid bugger should have had more sense.
binka
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it's always good when a politician has their career destroyed. no it won't change anything, except maybe make all the others paranoid that their every indiscretion is going to be exposed. it's pure scahdenfreude for me and it's great.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
It's been going on for hundreds of years and have politicians improved? Do we still have the same prurient bullshit that they can do what they like politically - destroy lives - but have an affair and ooh that's what really counts?
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
I'm sending a cock pic to someone I don't know, I'm a Tory Minister, what could possibly go wrong?
binka
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my post was only 3 sentences long and one of them did clearly state that it won't change anything - and none of them said it's what really counts
SarfLondoner
KenDoddsDadsDogsDead.
Idaho
blah blah blah
It's comic and pathetic. But does it improve the quality of our political dialogue? Or is this tragic knockabout nonsense as good as it gets?
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
"except maybe make all the others paranoid that their every indiscretion is going to be exposed" - they've been like that forever. Sometimes they forget or ignore it or whatever their reasons.
Getting someone fired for irrelevant bullshit, when they don't get fired for actual relevant activities, promotes the idea that it's only the bullshit that matters. You know, if he'd been a massive proponent of monogamy politically, or there was some great tactical reason to get that particular person out... but no, the basis behind this whole thing is more damaging than the result.
It's willy-waving by the tabloids anyway and they can fuck off as much as the Tories.
andysays
Love and solidarity
binka
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but they never get fired for the stuff that matters. no matter how shit they are they always end up doing ok (directorships, media, europe, ngo whatever) which is why i enjoy it when they fuck themselves.
newbie
undisambiguated
he didn't get fired, he resigned. or at least, that's the public version. Remember Alan Clark, a revolting specimen of human being, but when it transpired he'd had an affair with a woman, and with her two daughters, he just laughed and carried on as before. That option may or may not have been available here, but he'd have been daring Cameron to publicly fire him, on a day when another tory mp has defected to UKIP. He didn't have the nerve.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
That's the problem though isn't it? If we applaud when somebody gets fired because of stupid shit - and, for that matter, stupid shit that reinforces the conservative social message their party promotes - that just makes it worse, it gives the impression the press is doing a proper job. It needs challenging every time.
SaskiaJayne
Rural Guerrilla
Tbf Hollande didn't send cock pix, he rode round there on a scooter for a shag wearing a stupid helmet. Perhaps they do it different in France.
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Yes, yes I see it now. Britain became more socially conservative after all those tories in the Major years got caught with their pants down or with envelopes of dodgy cash.
Err no. It helped turn their public moralising into a joke that is remembered 20 years later.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
And we still have the same public moralising and the same "sex scandals" as in the 90s. With smug politico jokes.
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
You are talking horse shit.
Back then we had cunts like Lilly giving it the "I have a little list" turn at the tory conference that attacked single mothers for being single mothers. We had section 28 and the whole Major "back to basics" bollox.
We have public moralising but its nothing like the tone it was 20 odd years ago.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
TBF there was a much higher standard of sex scandals in the 90s than there is now; that was the Tories "Tiberius in Capri" phase.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
We have relentless, aggressive public moralising. If it's different in tone to how it was 20 years ago that's the result of social change not tabloid sex scandals.
binka
!!!!!!!!!
so i'm not allowed to enjoy a tory politician ruining his career? that seems really unfair
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
They want to take all our fun
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
but it is Tory misery, which makes up for a bit.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
in a way it provides an object lesson for today's young peoplethat sexting can land you in trouble. and that's by no means a bad message for people to take on board.
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