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Tory Leadership contest 2022

Cat Fan said:
There are plenty of semi-independent bodies set up to act as checks and balances on the government of the day.

You don't want to get rid of those do you? That way lies autocracy.
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aka quangos. Same problem lies with these. They are publicly funded but not publicly accountable.
 
Cat Fan said:
Sounds like you have had enough of experts.
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Publicly funded bodies should be democratically accountable.

Do you disagree with that statement?

Thing with quangos is that the list of responsibilities that are delegated to them, such as, for instance, forestry, is essentially arbitrary. Why isn't the NHS run as a quango? It needs to be run by experts, after all.
 
In a contest that's provided some stiff competition for 'most inane suggestion from a candidate', this one takes some beating

 
littlebabyjesus said:
Publicly funded bodies should be democratically accountable.

Do you disagree with that statement?
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What do you propose to change to make the BoE more accountable? It's already fully transparent and it's 100% under direct political influence if not always direct control.

I put it to you that your stance is based on ideology not facts.
 
Cat Fan said:
What do you propose to change to make the BoE more accountable? It's already fully transparent and it's 100% under direct political influence if not always direct control.

I put it to you that your stance is based on ideology not facts.
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I would change it back to what it was before Blair changed it. So governments are directly accountable for the consequences of things like, for instance, interest rates.

I'm not entirely sure what facts you think I'm ignoring. The fact that most people's wages have gone down in real terms in the period since the BoE was nominally made independent? That kind of fact?

We heard quite a few 'facts' in the leadership debates - how inflation is evil and we mustn't go back to the 1970s, a period when unions were much stronger, and wages generally kept pace with inflation and formed a much larger proportion of GDP than they do now as wealth has shifted from wages to profits.
 
steeplejack said:
Corrupt / corporate manslaughter shyster Rishi, staggeringly dense amateur cosplayer Liz, or cloth-eared fantasist Penny - one of them will be the next PM and all keenly focused on the challenges of the early 1980s.

what a time to be alive.
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Yeah, but if you don’t like them you can vote for Starmer, Davy or Sturgeon in 2 years.

Good job there isn’t much happening
 
Cat Fan said:
What do you propose to change to make the BoE more accountable? It's already fully transparent and it's 100% under direct political influence if not always direct control.

I put it to you that your stance is based on ideology not facts.
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Wow! You honestly believe that the BoE is100% transparent? And you believe that the current means of political influence are the equivalent of democratic accountability? It's so good that your beliefs are free from any ideological underpinning/assumptions.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
"The MP suggested "nasty personal attacks" in the media had cut through and predicted a Rishi Sunak vs Liz Truss contest would damage both candidates and the Conservative Party."

Oh dear, what a shame, never mind.
 
Mordaunt has conceded apparently, according to the Telegraph

www.telegraph.co.uk

Penny Mordaunt eliminated as Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss reach final round

Penny Mordaunt has been voted out of the Tory leadership race after receiving the lowest number of votes in the final MPs' ballot, sending Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss through to the final.
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk

An MP loyal to Penny Mordaunt has said Liz Truss has won the second spot in the Tory leadership election.

Speaking to the Telegraph, the MP said "Liz has pushed us out" after criticism over her record in the Tory press in the past couple of weeks.

They added: "[It] looks like a Rishi versus Liz summer contest. I fear the only winner from that will be our opponents. Both will be damaged.
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billy_bob said:
In a contest that's provided some stiff competition for 'most inane suggestion from a candidate', this one takes some beating

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I've just skipped through that interview to hear what she's saying. What is this UK theme she speaks of that is much loved and brings us all together? At first I thought she must have just meant the national anthem, but no, apparently we had/have a 'UK theme'? WTF?
 
LDC said:
I've just skipped through that interview to hear what she's saying. What is this UK theme she speaks of that is much loved and brings us all together? At first I thought she must have just meant the national anthem, but no, apparently we had/have a 'UK theme'? WTF?
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I'd check out the interview to see what she's on about but in six minutes she may be rendered completely irrelevant.
 
platinumsage said:
I'd check out the interview to see what she's on about but in six minutes she may be rendered completely irrelevant.
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I watched the interview and was none the wiser, it's just the 'UK theme' whatever the fuck that is. Google didn't even have an answer on quick look.
 
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