Tory Leadership contest 2022
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billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
Mordaunt is clearly very much the Guardian's pick:
The Guardian view on the Tory leadership contenders
They make a half-hearted attempt at warning that she needs to prove herself and stuff, but at the same time as slipping in a good few compliments - 'new broom', 'subtle campaign planning' (really?)
Maybe this belongs on the Guardian down the pan thread, but it's interesting that the liberal-left paper apparently wants one of the more plausible-seeming and (comparatively) centrist candidates to win and maybe successfully reinvigorate the government, rather than some nutter or numbskull who would make the Tories more beatable for our dreary and uninspiring opposition leader.
The Guardian view on the Tory leadership contenders
They make a half-hearted attempt at warning that she needs to prove herself and stuff, but at the same time as slipping in a good few compliments - 'new broom', 'subtle campaign planning' (really?)
Maybe this belongs on the Guardian down the pan thread, but it's interesting that the liberal-left paper apparently wants one of the more plausible-seeming and (comparatively) centrist candidates to win and maybe successfully reinvigorate the government, rather than some nutter or numbskull who would make the Tories more beatable for our dreary and uninspiring opposition leader.
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
tbf that might have been to look normal but it might also have been because no way would she give the good crockery to a bunch of hacks and paps. They probably got the mugs that she doesn't consider good enough even for tradespeople.
platinumsage
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The mugs Sunak’s wife used were only £38 each apparently, from a North London brand: Emma Lacey
not-bono-ever
meh
It’s Cheshire btw. I have this on good authority. mordant likes mild cheddar. Sunak prefers that stuff in tubes with chives in it. On crackers made of 24k gold
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
1. They're horrible mugs, and (b) the word 'only' is doing some heavy lifting there
Cat Fan
Cats and stats
"Making tea for the team" holding a teapot that could hold about two cups
Cat Fan
Cats and stats
I mean, would she genuinely be that different from Starmer when it comes to policy? They're both apparently pretty "centrist"
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you didn't read this piece linked to on the last page B is for … Britain Breaker, Not Backer
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
My guess about Mordaunt is that she is some sort of return to Cameron/Osborne style politics: economically conservative and socially liberal. As such her appeal to the professional middle class is obvious because essentially so are they. The best way to understand this farcical election run off is that this is yet another battle for control between the two dominant factions of the past 20 years: the established order of the right: represented by the repellent Mourdaunt and the oily Sunak against the insurgent right represented by the genuinely swivel eyed Badenoch and more contingently by the utterly ludicrous Truss. The blunt reality is that Mourdant might sound all Ben & Jerry's on equality, but will happily smash up what's left of the state, hand over Billions to corporations, attack the organised working class and - like the others - has demonstrated that she doesn't understand the current perma-crisis let alone have any ideas to engage with it
That the allegedly liberal Guardian could even think of writing this garbage let alone publish it reveals more about the now almost complete intellectual and political collapse of their brand of politics than it does about Mourdant.
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
Just to be clear, I wasn't saying I thought the world would be a significantly better or different place under Starmer's Labour than it would under Mordaunt's Tories. The Guardian's stance is indicative of the very blurred lines you're talking about, and of the fact that now there is a 'economically conservative, socially liberal' wing of the Conservatives, there's no real need for it (the paper) to support even a nominally left-wing party, because its own position and, as Smokeandsteam says, that of most of its core readership is pretty well aligned with that Conservative wing.
But the media influences as well as reflecting, and it is, potentially at least, of some significance that the Guardian's allegiance to Labour is ever more lukewarm.
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Seems the ERG are defiant about supporting Truss - seems they care more about retaining their own seats than keeping the Tories in government:
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
platinumsage
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why does that man imagine that badenoch is his best chance of not getting sacked? how does that make sense?
eta oh i think its the wokeness thing. he is one of those in the "Common Sense Group"
Also Truss was previously pro-EU and is not a True Brexiteer.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
I imagine Sunak’s idea of making a cup of tea is to put the teabag in the mug first, along with some milk that is already turning Truss cheesy, then pouring on water that hasn’t yet boiled, and squeezing the life out of the teabag with a Biro until the concoction is undrinkably stewed, and the mug is stained for eternity.
cesare
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Joking was the general premise.
Spandex
A crazy bulbous punchbag of sound
Starmer won't want to rock any boats and will be happy to plough on with steady-as-she-goes euro-capitalism, occasionally remembering he's a Labour leader and exclaiming "easy now!" as capital monetises another essential state provision.
Mordant, according the article teqniq and Pickman's model posted, wants the UK to adopt the worst traits of the American clean slate libertarian late vulture capitalism and has been actively working towards it.
Choose your flavour of hell.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The next Tory government is going to be even worse than Johnson's clown show, isn't it?
I know they're only playing to their own right now, but presumably they're going to at least try to follow through on at least some of their promises.
I know they're only playing to their own right now, but presumably they're going to at least try to follow through on at least some of their promises.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
The next Tory government is going to be even worse than Johnson's clown show, isn't it?
I know they're only playing to their own right now, but presumably they're going to at least try to follow through on at least some of their promises.
Yeah, somebody actually mildly competent with an ideology rather than clownishly self centred might get in and it’s going to be a grim few years as a result.
The corruption hidden away a bit for the papers, playing nicely with donors. It’s all a bit worrying.
not-bono-ever
meh
The new cabinet have got a couple of years to asset strip the UK until they Fuck of into obscurity and wealth. Toryscum
bimble
floofy
Not sure. They may also bin some of the more hideous plans that are currently in the pipework, dreamed up by the incompetent ideologues that BJ surrounded himself with. I think it depends. He did purge anyone half sane didn’t he a couple of years ago.The next Tory government is going to be even worse than Johnson's clown show, isn't it?
I know they're only playing to their own right now, but presumably they're going to at least try to follow through on at least some of their promises.
AverageJoe
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
they'll be following through onto the rest of usThe next Tory government is going to be even worse than Johnson's clown show, isn't it?
I know they're only playing to their own right now, but presumably they're going to at least try to follow through on at least some of their promises.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
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The danger with Sunac or Mordant is they might actually be compitent and free enough of disabling gaffs and scandles to carry out policy.The next Tory government is going to be even worse than Johnson's clown show, isn't it?
I know they're only playing to their own right now, but presumably they're going to at least try to follow through on at least some of their promises.
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