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Tory Leadership contest 2022

Meant to reply in the post above that it baffles me why the Tories and Truss in particular seem to think that the time is right for a second coming of Margaret Thatcher,that the public are now ready for this.Of course I move in entirely different circles but even so I think they have just got this wrong.Everyone I know is well aware by now of the long-term dreadful consequences of her policies and she is quite rightly universally despised.Surely there will have to be a new GE before the year is out?
 
Meant to reply in the post above that it baffles me why the Tories and Truss in particular seem to think that the time is right for a second coming of Margaret Thatcher,that the public are now ready for this.Of course I move in entirely different circles but even so I think they have just got this wrong.Everyone I know is well aware by now of the long-term dreadful consequences of her policies and she is quite rightly universally despised.Surely there will have to be a new GE before the year is out?
Because the Tory extremist looks back at the 80’s as a glorious time of endless wealth and most of them bought their first house around that time.
 
It's probably worth noting that Truss only has the backing of a minority of the parliamentary party and Gove is calling her tax plans a "holiday from reality". She's going to win the leadership election of course, but she's going to be facing a war of attrition from her own party from the off.
 
It's probably worth noting that Truss only has the backing of a minority of the parliamentary party and Gove is calling her tax plans a "holiday from reality". She's going to win the leadership election of course, but she's going to be facing a war of attrition from her own party from the off.

And everything is shit and will only get worse as we head into winter. And Truss' only solution to any of the massive structural problems is 'graft', so I think we can rule out that working.
 
I think all this story says is that Keir Starmer's team think the public are stupid, influenced by first impressions and easily manipulated by the media. I don't think this bounce is going to happen because COST OF LIVING CRISIS. People of all classes, left and right, pay attention to the money flowing out of their pockets and won't be fobbed off by peanuts tax cuts.


I think there are some arguments to be made for the possibility of a snap election along these lines. These are bad arguments I think, but I wouldn't rule a snap election out, because who knows what Truss is thinking...
 
I would suspect that they are playing mind games here. If there is any bounce at all; which a doubt, the Labour can claim they were expecting a double-digit bounce and how shit must Truss be to only get 2%. Plus the tories cannot say they only expect a small bounce because that looks shit too. After all Truss is the natural successor to Thatcher (or something)
 
It's blatantly a labour leak. They're banking on Truss (a) being so arrogant as to ignore all sensible advice, and (b) being so mind-blowingly thick as to believe in a completely made up 10%+ bounce during the middle of a cost of living crisis that will very soon see general strikes and wide scale civil unrest.

In government for another 2 years plus guaranteed, massive majority, but with a looming recession + dead people + riots. Gee let me think, is calling a snap election a good idea?
 
Yeah this is like those 'leaks' before (council) elections that state the the government is expecting going to lose hundreds of seats or the opposition only expecting gain a couple.

I suspect that there might be a minor boost - Johnson will have gone, the sleaze stories have not been in the press for a few months - but this 'analysis' is crap. Pure expectation management and it's pathetic of the Guardian to not call it out as such.
 
who knows what Truss is thinking...
My worry is she knows she has no hope of winning the next election, so she plans to be a hero to a tiny minority by creating a whole heap of mess and suffering. The tiny minority will, of course, then disown her.
 
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