Tim Pool. Investigative journalism in Sweden after Trump allegations on immigration problems

[Idris2002]

You're long on insults and very short on reading the thread I see. How dare I? Very fucking easily. How dare you post this thread demanding we all take the word of a holocaust denier?

In fairness, Pickman's, if you can't trust a holocaust denier, who can you trust?

 

[classicdish]

He proved that there were no no go zones in Sweden, did you see the videos? You don't even know what you are talking about.

Well in his 13th video he kind of says both 'no' and 'yes':



edit: a word

 

[Obediah Marsh]

The right has been bashing Sweden since forever. They seize on every Swedish dysfunction (real or imagined) and make a big fuss over it. Immigration is just the latest angle of attack. They don't care about Sweden or Swedes, what they care about is discrediting the Swedish social model of generous welfare provision, progressive taxation and strong unions. That's what this is all about.

 

[Anudder Oik]

Is this the same Tim Pool who took part in the 2nd Holocaust denial conference in Tehran in 2014?

I think NOT!!!

Interested to see if Tim pool is a holocaust denier, I've just spent about an hour scouring internet and scrolling through pages of his Twitter account right back to september/october 2014, which is when the conference you link to took place. He has no Tweets on the exact dates and was around that time covering in Ferguson USA and at something called a climatemarch.

Nowhere can I find anything that even links him with the subject title of the panel you say he was on "The Gaza War & BDS Movement Strategies against the Zionist Regime"

in Fact, he doesn't seem to be even remotely linked to or interested in Gaza and covers mostly protests in the USA. It just doesn't fit his profile.

I may be wrong about Pool but you need to back up your assertion or withdraw it as it is derailing the thread and casting a shadow of doubt over the credibility of a journalist who seems to be doing some very interesting investigative journalism.

 

[Anudder Oik]

The right has been bashing Sweden since forever. They seize on every Swedish dysfunction (real or imagined) and make a big fuss over it. Immigration is just the latest angle of attack. They don't care about Sweden or Swedes, what they care about is discrediting the Swedish social model of generous welfare provision, progressive taxation and strong unions. That's what this is all about.

I think Tim Pools reports could go to taking the wind out of the sails of the right and their attacks on Sweden's social model.

 

[butchersapron]

It is him - he attended(edit: or was at least down to attend) with his mate and journo partner Luke Rudkowski. The one he's in all the videos with. The one who then writes articles about the numerous attacks at left-wing events that Pool suffers as if he (LR) just happened to be there. A quick five minute search this morning whilst having a tea brought up 6 separate incidents of Pool claiming to have been attacked and ran off left-wing events - stretching right back to Occupy and with LR then screaming on twitter/paper columns/interviews etc about anti-white racism or stuff. That's the MO - i will make your enemies look bad - pay me.

 

[phillm]

Memri would seem on closer inspection to be a biased source to hang Pool on a holcaust denying accustion.

Middle East Media Research Institute - Wikipedia

MEMRI's founding staff of seven included three who had formerly served in military intelligence in the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF).[8][9] MEMRI president and founder Yigal Carmon states that MEMRI's current staff includes "people of the Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths [who] hold a range of political views".[10]

Yigal Carmon – MEMRI's founder and President. Carmon is fluent in Arabic. He served as Colonel in the Military Intelligence Directorate (Israel) from 1968 to 1988. He was Acting Head of Civil Administration in the West Bank and the adviser on Arab affairs to the civil administration from 1977 to 1982.

MediaTransparency, an organization[54] that monitors the financial ties of conservative think tanks to conservative foundations in the United States, reported that for the years 1999 to 2004, MEMRI received $100,000 from The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Inc., $100,000 from The Randolph Foundation, and $5,000 from the John M. Olin Foundation.[55]

Norman Finkelstein has described MEMRI as "a main arm of Israeli propaganda". In 2006, Finkelstein accused MEMRI of editing a television interview he gave in Lebanon in order to falsely impute that he was a Holocaust denier. In an interview with the newspaper In Focus in 2007, he said MEMRI uses "the same sort of propaganda techniques as the Nazis" and "take things out of context in order to do personal and political harm to people they don't like".[63]

 

[Anudder Oik]

Well in his 13th video he kind of says both 'no' and 'yes':



edit: a word

Doesn't he mean only if you go there specifically with a camera? Is that a way to interpret it?

 

[inva]

Memri would seem on closer inspection to be a biased source to hang Pool on a holcaust denying accustion.

Middle East Media Research Institute - Wikipedia

MEMRI's founding staff of seven included three who had formerly served in military intelligence in the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF).[8][9] MEMRI president and founder Yigal Carmon states that MEMRI's current staff includes "people of the Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths [who] hold a range of political views".[10]

Yigal Carmon – MEMRI's founder and President. Carmon is fluent in Arabic. He served as Colonel in the Military Intelligence Directorate (Israel) from 1968 to 1988. He was Acting Head of Civil Administration in the West Bank and the adviser on Arab affairs to the civil administration from 1977 to 1982.

MediaTransparency, an organization[54] that monitors the financial ties of conservative think tanks to conservative foundations in the United States, reported that for the years 1999 to 2004, MEMRI received $100,000 from The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Inc., $100,000 from The Randolph Foundation, and $5,000 from the John M. Olin Foundation.[55]

Norman Finkelstein has described MEMRI as "a main arm of Israeli propaganda". In 2006, Finkelstein accused MEMRI of editing a television interview he gave in Lebanon in order to falsely impute that he was a Holocaust denier. In an interview with the newspaper In Focus in 2007, he said MEMRI uses "the same sort of propaganda techniques as the Nazis" and "take things out of context in order to do personal and political harm to people they don't like".[63]

he was listed on the New Horizon conference's itinery on its website

 

[butchersapron]

he was listed on the New Horizon conference's itinery on its website

Along with this group of charmers - a who's who of holocaust deniers, open fascists, anti-semites, racists and conspiracy loons. if people don't know the names pick one at random and do a google.

Prof. Anthony James Hall

Prof. Claudio Mutti

Prof. Claudio Moffa

Dr. Gareth Porter

Dr. Rev. Stephen Sizer

Dr. Mateusz Piskorski

Dr. Rev. Randy Short

Dr. Maria Poumier

Dr. Issa Chaer

Wayne Madsen

Medea Benjamin

Art Olivier

Luke Rudkowski

Ken O K’eefe

Pepe Escobar

Manuel Ochsenreiter

Tim Pool

Cyrus McGoldrick

Caleb Maupin

Jean-Michel Vernochete

Joe le Corbeau

Olivier Lemoine

Maurizio Blondet

Roberto Quaglia

Ahmad Rami

Eric Walberg

Isabelle Praile

Hassan Alkatib

Manuel Galiana Ros

Juan Antonio Aguilar

Mohamad Mouhajer

 

[Bernie Gunther]

He seems to be an inhabitant of that shifty and amoral economic niche that involves facilitating unpleasant political agendas while claiming to be doing objective journalism.

 

[Pickman's model]

Doesn't he mean only if you go there specifically with a camera? Is that a way to interpret it?

yes. let's avoid the fact the man you so highly praised above is a holocaust denier. leaves your position on this thread in tatters after the smashing it's taken from classicdish, butchersparon and even the likes of littlebabyjesus.

 

[Anudder Oik]

It is him - he attended with his mate and journo partner Luke Rudkowski. The one he's in all the videos with. The one who then writes articles about the numerous attacks at left-wing events that Pool suffers as if he (LR) just happened to be there. A quick five minute search this morning whilst having a tea brought up 6 separate incidents of Pool claiming to have been attacked and ran off left-wing events - stretching right back to Occupy. That's the MO - i will make your enemies look bad - pay me.

I think you are pissing in the wind. He appears in like two videos with the guy. So what?


Now prove beyond a doubt that

A. Tim Pool was there in Tehran.

B. Tim Pool actually has an interest in the subject he was alleged to be panelling.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think you are pissing in the wind. He appears in like two videos with the guy. So what?


Now prove beyond a doubt that

A. Tim Pool was there in Tehran.

B. Tim Pool actually has an interest in the subject he was alleged to be panelling.

 

[Anudder Oik]

yes. let's avoid the fact the man you so highly praised above is a holocaust denier. leaves your position on this thread in tatters after the smashing it's taken from classicdish, butchersparon and even the likes of littlebabyjesus.

Prove he's a holocaust denier. You can't. It's bullshit.

 

[Pickman's model]

Prove he's a holocaust denier. You can't. It's bullshit.

how do you know i can't?

 

[butchersapron]

Prove he's a holocaust denier. You can't. It's bullshit.

What did I say about pool? Repeat it back to me.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

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That's the MO - i will make your enemies look bad - pay me.

Yep ...

Part of the technique also involves people like Annudder Oik amplifying that signal, which is why I want to say economic or even ecological niche. It doesn't require cooperation or conspiracy, just a good understanding of how to play social media.

 

[Idris2002]

Prove he's a holocaust denier. You can't. It's bullshit.

This is Radio Yerevan. A listener asks: by what means may we prove an individual is an holocaust denier?

We are answering: by means of fists.

 

[Pickman's model]

Prove he's a holocaust denier. You can't. It's bullshit.

what alternative reason would you suggest from his attested presence at the conference

CFCA - Iranian conference promoting antisemitism
Mystical Politics: Stephen Sizer, hanging out at an antisemitic conference in Iran again

i wonder why he doesn't mention his jaunt to tehran on his twitter

 

[Pickman's model]

He has no Tweets on the exact dates and was around that time covering in Ferguson USA and at something called a climatemarch.

if you are going to lie, please lie well.
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[Pickman's model]

yeh right, yer man's attendance as a panelist about "The Gaza War & BDS Movement Strategies against the Zionist Regime" (with panelists Randy Short, Caleb Maupin and others) - what was that about Anudder Oik? the panel was on 30/9/14 - a day you said yer man never tweeted. how many other lies are you going to tell?

 

[killer b]

lol. nice pond you're swimming in there, oik.

 

[DotCommunist]

again.

 

[not-bono-ever]

fuckin hell

 

[butchersapron]

None of this should take away from the class posts by classicdish above. They need replying to/dealing with.

 

[Pickman's model]

fuckin hell

you must have realised Anudder Oik kept some rather peculiar company.

 

[Pickman's model]

Tim Pool, who has done a great job with an objective view.

 

[Ranbay]

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yeh right, yer man's attendance as a panelist about "The Gaza War & BDS Movement Strategies against the Zionist Regime" (with panelists Randy Short, Caleb Maupin and others) - what was that about Anudder Oik? the panel was on 30/9/14 - a day you said yer man never tweeted. how many other lies are you going to tell?

40 seconds in....

 

[DaveCinzano]

Regardless of everything else, let me reiterate what was noted in post #4: Linköping library looks great