The Virgin Mary
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bcuster
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Because you've got better answers yourself, eh, Luther?
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It burns, it burns!!!
Gromit
International Man of Misery
But did Jesus say that or did the people after Jesus say it to give themselves absolute power over his followers?So who's going to figure it all out for us? The atheists of U75? Luther? Cromwell? Or the teaching authority of the Church?
Avert your eyes if you must; another authoritative link in direct response to your question:
The Church's Teaching Authority | EWTN
EWTN is a global, Catholic Television, Catholic Radio, and Catholic News Network that provides catholic programming and news coverage from around the world.www.ewtn.com
Show me the TikTok in which Jesus actually says it from his own mouth.
If Jesus did come again I'm positive he'd claim he was misquoted and Christians would call him a heretic and kill him.
bcuster
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It's in the Bible. Even Luther's (skinnier) version of it...
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Jesus didn't write the Bible. Self interested priests did.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Numerous authors inspired by the Holy Spirit did. The Bible is a library, not a book. It's a matter of who you are going to trust to interpret it for you. Yourself: you're a Protestant. The Church: you're Catholic. Something else: you're something else
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Here's a link for you to enjoyAvert your eyes if you must; another authoritative link in direct response to your question:
The Church's Teaching Authority | EWTN
EWTN is a global, Catholic Television, Catholic Radio, and Catholic News Network that provides catholic programming and news coverage from around the world.
15 Heinous Crimes of the Catholic Church
The history of the Catholic Church is a complex narrative of faith, power, and controversy. When discussing the crimes of the Catholic Church, it's crucial to acknowledge both its spiritual influence and the dark chapters that have cast shadows over its legacy. From the heights of moral guidance...
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ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Like the Pope?
bcuster
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They're human beings, too. Yet the Church survives and in place;, thrives, despite bad people in positions of power.
Fuck this sectarian shite
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
But religion is sectarian shite. Or it's pointless.
Why should we waste time arguing about the perpetual virginity of Mary, or the existence of saints. if it weren't important to arrive at the correct answer?
Not that there's any evidence for the correct answer, or even any evidence that of all the religions in the world, one of them is the correct answer.
I don't think the existence of a creative force that holds us to account after we die is very likely, but one never knows. Maybe bcuster will arrive in the afterlife and get a big suprise. 'You heretic, bcuster! You were supposed to wear a green bobble hat on Wednesdays, and avoid eating the flesh of left-handed animals! I am deeply disappointed, and it's off to hell for you!'
Why should we waste time arguing about the perpetual virginity of Mary, or the existence of saints. if it weren't important to arrive at the correct answer?
Not that there's any evidence for the correct answer, or even any evidence that of all the religions in the world, one of them is the correct answer.
I don't think the existence of a creative force that holds us to account after we die is very likely, but one never knows. Maybe bcuster will arrive in the afterlife and get a big suprise. 'You heretic, bcuster! You were supposed to wear a green bobble hat on Wednesdays, and avoid eating the flesh of left-handed animals! I am deeply disappointed, and it's off to hell for you!'
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bcuster
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Lots of bad things are done in the name of government, including by high government officials and heads of state. No here has condemned embezzling clerks, corrupt politicians or evil heads of state with anything approaching the vigor and hatred they have shown for the Church
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Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Er... you have read the politics threads here?
bcuster
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God is logical and good and merciful and cannot do anything against his nature.
A persons good faith effort at a life of objectively good behavior will not be mocked or punished by God
bcuster
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I have And yes they do criticize these bad acts and actors, but most U75 posters don’t criticize the concept of government as they do here that of a Church
You've been here all of 5 minutes and clearly have no idea of what urban is and how the community has repeatedly condemned and actively combatted state injustices and their enablers, for more than two decades.
bcuster
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But not government as a concept
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
Then why should we waste time debating things for which there's no evidence? Or going to church, for thath matter?
Take a look at one of the many threads concerning anarchism, for starters
bcuster
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Are you an anarchist?
Isn't everyone?
bcuster
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Because what is the standard for good behavior? Morality. And where does morality come from?
Do you believe that, e.g. murder is bad, only because God thinks so, or rather does God condemn murder because it's bad independently of his assessment of it?
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
Here's another question that bcuster won't answer.
People used to be executed for not believing what the church said. Now they aren't.
Is it right to put them to death, or not?
If it isn't, then the church was committing murder on a mass scale.
If the church can make mistakes like that, what are the odds that it's got it right now, just at the time you happen to be alive?
People used to be executed for not believing what the church said. Now they aren't.
Is it right to put them to death, or not?
If it isn't, then the church was committing murder on a mass scale.
If the church can make mistakes like that, what are the odds that it's got it right now, just at the time you happen to be alive?
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Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Aye, the Bible has to be one of the most evil books ever written. The God character, especially in the Old Testament, has to be up there with the most despicable mass murdering literary villains in the history of literature. Yet it's adherents call it The Good Book. The mind boggles at people basing their entire morality on the content of that wicked book.
Humberto
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And there is the entire Bible and everything associated with it succinctly dismissed.
You should have told us!
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