The Trump presidency

[krtek a houby]

Trump Hotels Just Asked Twitter To Share A Travel Memory. Their Responses Are SAVAGE

 

[teqniq]

Have we had this one yet? Saw on fb yesterday

 

[CRI]

Full retard to follow.

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[Yuwipi Woman]

America's 10 Richest Gain $16 Billion During Trump's First Week

Let's not forget what the Trump Presidency is really about: money.

 

[CrabbedOne]

I think the content of Bette Midler's tweet is important here, and how right she is.

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You are missing Schneider's point. They've just started out with Obama's list of Muslim states that the US has policy headaches with. The likes of Frank Gafney would certainly want to expand it. Practically though that might require a large loop hole for security folk, arms customers and the very wealthy. Otherwise you are just shooting billion dollar toes of the US economy.

It's Trump, think of it in terms of his style of bullying, he could use the threat of being listed to extract financial support from GCC countries.

Or he might lean on countries like Kuwait that are processing houses for Salafi-Jihadi financing from other GCC countries. Private citizens in the KSA still seem to finance The Taliban. The Pakistani state fairly obviously supports them.

 

[CrabbedOne]

Linky.

 

[treelover]

Probably so. Saw a tweet from a lawyer trying to work on behalf of a US born US citizen of Jordanian heritage who's been questioned about his religious and political affiliations, had social media and emails searched and was deported.

Speaking honestly Urbanites, I wouldn't go anywhere near North America for the forseeable future. Shit's going down. Don't get caught in it.

Brits went to Spain and Portugal when they had fully fledged fascist systems, I think you are a bit of an obsessive, have you ever posted about poverty in the U.S, the rust belts which are in dire straits, America's Gulags, Food banks, U.S identity politics are not dominant in the rest of the West(yet)

Oh, and i do abhor Trump and his works, but some of the links you have provided have been just as divisive.

 

[CRI]

Full Text of Draft Dissent Channel Memo on Trump Refugee and Visa Order

Consider this a major bureaucratic uprising on the part of career foreign service officers against the President on his executive order on refugees.

Numerous Foreign Service officers and other diplomats have drafted a dissent memo expressing opposition to President Donald Trump’s executive order banning refugees and immigrants from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen from entering the United States. ABC reportedthis morning on the draft, which is likely to be submitted today.

Here’s a copy of the actual draft. We are hearing that literally hundreds of foreign service officers are planning to be party to the dissent memo; it’s still unclear exactly how many. We have redacted all names and personally identifiable information from this document.

 

[killer b]

I think you are a bit of an obsessive

uh huh.

have you ever posted about poverty in the U.S, the rust belts which are in dire straits, America's Gulags, Food banks, U.S identity politics are not dominant in the rest of the West(yet)

 

[CRI]

Linky.

Don't care. Shitty term to use full stop.

 

[gosub]

On ABC Gates: 'Big Mistake' to Push Key Intelligence, Military Leaders Out of Security Council Principals Committee
Most people just picked on Bannon being added to the Sec Council. Gates dismisses that. He's right another fat, yappy, civilian matters little. Edging out technocrats on the other hand is a worrying sign. This looks like an insular "sofa government" in formation that doesn't want to hear unpleasant truths from any source.

Depends what going on; could just be a shake up of the jungle pecking order...but initially you would have said Himmler was another fat yappy civilian

 

[treelover]

killer b
The difference is, the things i obsess about: uk poverty, sanctions, etc, are sadly and shamingly now a minority interest, sadly campus style identity politics is the dominant form of politics on the U.S Left, Klein wrote about it years ago.

 

[Rimbaud]

Sadly, efforts at Impeachment will be thwarted in a GOP majority House of Representatives unless a shitload of Republican congressmen and women find their spines, and I can't see that happening. So, that leaves the other two . . .

I'm hopeful. Trump was never popular among the GOP, but they went along with him in the end anyway, probably hoping that it was all an act and he would turn out to be moderate, and to hope that he would start to behave more serious and professional once in office. But so far Trump's Presidency really has been the worst case scenario imagined. He can't even control the staff inside the White House and everything has been a clusterfuck so far. If things continue on this trajectory towards chaos (and importantly, plummeting approval) the Republicans will turn against him and try to do some damage control.

 

[CRI]

Brits went to Spain and Portugal when they had fully fledged fascist systems, I think you are a bit of an obsessive, have you ever posted about poverty in the U.S, the rust belts which are in dire straits, America's Gulags, Food banks, U.S identity politics are not dominant in the rest of the West(yet)

Oh, and i do abhor Trump and his works, but some of the links you have provided have been just as divisive.

I meant it's going to be a nightmare at airports with disruption, and anyone who isn't tickity boo with their contact list, social media histories, etc. being checked may find themselves on a plane back. Insurance doesn't cover things like this. WTF that has to do with the International Brigades is beyond me.

I rarely posted outside the funny pictures page until recently, but I know how sucky and unjust America has been, under all shades of executive, legislature and judiciary. The "oh, why are you so upset about this, but you're not saying your upset about that," comes straight out of Derailing for Dummies. Nah, not playing pal.

 

[treelover]

I meant on holidays, yes, your mates dad's went to a fascist state for a hol.

 

[treelover]

I meant it's going to be a nightmare at airports with disruption, and anyone who isn't tickity boo with their contact list, social media histories, etc. being checked may find themselves on a plane back. Insurance doesn't cover things like this. WTF that has to do with the International Brigades is beyond me.

I rarely posted outside the funny pictures page, but pal, I know how sucky and unjust America has been, under all shades of executive, legislature and judiciary. The "oh, why are you so upset about this, but you're not saying your upset about that," comes straight out of Derailing for Dummies. Nah, not playing pal.

You are a US version of what Orwell wrote about in The Lion and The Unicorn.

 

[brogdale]

I meant it's going to be a nightmare at airports with disruption, and anyone who isn't tickity boo with their contact list, social media histories, etc. being checked may find themselves on a plane back. Insurance doesn't cover things like this. WTF that has to do with the International Brigades is beyond me.

I rarely posted outside the funny pictures page until recently, but I know how sucky and unjust America has been, under all shades of executive, legislature and judiciary. The "oh, why are you so upset about this, but you're not saying your upset about that," comes straight out of Derailing for Dummies. Nah, not playing pal.

As an 'older' poster with no FB, no Smartphone & only anonymised twatter...do people (have to) freely give up all their SM content? Isn't it possible to travel with a 'clean' phone with apps removed etc?
Not casting any judgement...just a bit ignorant/curious.

 

[CRI]

I'm hopeful. Trump was never popular among the GOP, but they went along with him in the end anyway, probably hoping that it was all an act and he would turn out to be moderate, and to hope that he would start to behave more serious and professional once in office. But so far Trump's Presidency really has been the worst case scenario imagined. He can't even control the staff inside the White House and everything has been a clusterfuck so far. If things continue on this trajectory towards chaos (and importantly, plummeting approval) the Republicans will turn against him and try to do some damage control.

Wish I shared your optimism. I'm old and cynical now.

The GOP may turn against Trump, but risk alienating those "heartland" supporters who adore Trump and Pence, and are suspicious of McCain and the more traditional Republican types.

Anyhow, even if he goes, by impeachment, or in a coffin from eating too much KFC, Pence is next in line, then comes Ryan, so . . .

 

[CrabbedOne]

In The Interpreter Read-Outs of White House, Kremlin on Trump and Putin Phone Call Differ; No US Mention of Ukraine

Odd discrepancy, I'd rather expect it to be the other way round. It does make me wonder if Putin brought up the Ukraine hoping to talk sanctions but Trump fixating on nukes didn't even minute it. The Russians also seem to be talking about the ME in more regional terms.

 

[CRI]

I meant on holidays, yes, your mates dad's went to a fascist state for a hol.

Uh, okay.

 

[belboid]

Congratulations, you've found a table on Wikipedia.

I wasn't talking about the number of Executive Orders issued. I was talking about the fact that Trump started making public announcements about specific policies and actions as soon as the election result was called - for example telling all the Ambassadors and heads of the Nuclear programme that they must clear their desks by noon on swearing in day.

At least in my life time, I've never known of a PEOTUS to publicly undermind the POTUS, even if they are chomping at the bit to get in and start changes. Peaceful transition of power has always been seen as essential for stability and as a hallmark of democracy. Trump and his team acted like they were taking over from 9th November.

Ohh, that is so not what you said before you little fibber.

 

[CRI]

As an 'older' poster with no FB & only anonymised twatter...do people (have to) freely give up all their SM content? Isn't it possible to travel with a 'clean' phone with apps removed etc?
Not casting any judgement...just a bit ignorant/curious.

Hard to tell at this stage. I'm just going on what people on the ground are saying they and their clients are being asked. In theory one could refuse. But, the immigration officials can deny entry without giving any reason and you have no recourse. I have a hunch that they'll be more likely to scrutinise some people and not others, you know, the ones with "funny"names, brown skin and who've visited certain countries.

 

[brogdale]

Hard to tell at this stage. I'm just going on what people on the ground are saying they and their clients are being asked. In theory one could refuse. But, the immigration officials can deny entry without giving any reason and you have no recourse. I have a hunch that they'll be more likely to scrutinise some people and not others, you know, the ones with "funny"names, brown skin and who've visited certain countries.

Thanks.
It's just that on the media they've talked about demanding to trawl through FB etc...and I was wondering how they would react to responses like "I haven't got it"?

 

[gosub]

Hard to tell at this stage. I'm just going on what people on the ground are saying they and their clients are being asked. In theory one could refuse. But, the immigration officials can deny entry without giving any reason and you have no recourse. I have a hunch that they'll be more likely to scrutinise some people and not others, you know, the ones with "funny"names, brown skin and who've visited certain countries.

what, like 'Barack'?

 

[CRI]

Governor Bentley Issues Statement on President Trump Executive Orders on Immigration

The Federal government must comply with its statutory obligations to consult with states before placing refugees within its borders. This issue is about correcting a deeply flawed process. Certainly those who are persecuted, especially Christians, in extreme terrorist nations must be able to seek a place of safe refuge, through proper channels. However we cannot ignore the process set in place already, and we simply cannot risk placing American’s or Alabamian’s lives in danger. President Trump is right to stop this very flawed process until extreme vetting can take place.

 

[mauvais]

Thanks.
It's just that on the media they've talked about demanding to trawl through FB etc...and I was wondering how they would react to responses like "I haven't got it"?

There is no practical solution except a scheme to sequester information from service providers themselves. It's unworkable.

 

[CRI]

what, like 'Barack'?

Probably.

Shit, I'm thinking of telling my 40 something nephew, who has a dark complexion, short hair and a full curly beard to change his social media profile pic, or shave. He's never travelled much outside Illinois or Indiana though, but that's not to say some bastards in the "heartland" might not shoot first and ask questions later.

 

[bimble]

it is tempting to laugh

 

[CRI]

There is no practical solution except a scheme to sequester information from service providers themselves. It's unworkable.

I think it's designed to harass, to cause distress, not because it will yield any useful intelligence information - like say the purpose of police racial profiling.

 

[CRI]

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it is tempting to laugh

Fuck