The stupidity of the anti-vaxx nutcases

[Dogsauce]

Anti-vaccine protesters storm BBC HQ – years after it moved out

Group gain access to old Television Centre in west London, which is now mostly rented by ITV daytime shows

www.theguardian.com

I wonder if someone is setting them up to look stupid, like some deep cover agent or prankster?

What happens when they run out of stuff to get pissed off about when everything is back to normal, where do they go with that righteous sense of injustice and mistrust of authority?

 

[stdP]

What happens when they run out of stuff to get pissed off about when everything is back to normal, where do they go with that righteous sense of injustice and mistrust of authority?

If your sense of self comes from railing against an invisible enemy, it's very easy to just flat out invent stuff to get pissed off about. Conspiracy rabbit holes are littered with people jumping from one increasingly fantastic idea to another, the connection to reality diminishing with each hop.

 

[pogofish]

I wouldn't mind going on a romantic round-the-world cruise with a flat-earther, see their reaction when we end up at the same port at the end of the cruise (instead of falling off the edge of the world into the airless oblivion of deep space's endless night)

There is such a thing as Flat Earth Cruises:

All aboard the Flat Earth cruise – just don’t tell them about nautical navigation

Flat earthers, who believe the Earth is a large disk, may be shocked to find the ship’s navigation is based on a spherical planet

www.theguardian.com

 

[spring-peeper]

OK - now we have crossed my line in the sand.
Bye, bye facebook friend.

 

[krtek a houby]

These cunts are so skull fuckingly stupid that they’re currently protesting against the BBC news outside a building the BBC news is no longer based in.

They are so well informed. That's why we should listen to them and their research findings.

 

[Tankus]

I wonder if the virus has had a bigger and more widespread impact on cognisance than reported ?

 

[steveo87]

#peak.

 

[krtek a houby]

Getting more and more worrying. What has been unleashed?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

It's nothing special. The far right have been shouting about "biased BBC" and trying to get into the offices for years. Normally they can at least be arsed to go up to Portland Place though.

 

[krtek a houby]

It's nothing special. The far right have been shouting about "biased BBC" and trying to get into the offices for years. Normally they can at least be arsed to go up to Portland Place though.

Afaik, the last protesters who got past security were against Nick Griffin's appearance on Question Time, back in 2009.

More concerned about the far right/antivaxxers/Qanon etc movement and where it will end.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

Afaik, the last protesters who got past security were against Nick Griffin's appearance on Question Time, back in 2009.

More concerned about the far right/antivaxxers/Qanon etc movement and where it will end.

I suspect a lot of their bigger demos were filled with anti-lockdown/pissed off with lockdown people rahte than "true" believers, that last on in trafalgar square was quite a lot smaller than the previous ones and I think this is possibly a trend.
So we'll soon see how many faithful are left.

 

[krtek a houby]

More well informed antivaxxers

'I Am Legend' screenwriter reacts to vaccine conspiracy theories, pointing out the plot is fiction

 

[Cerv]

German nurse swaps vaccine for saline, 9,000 people need new shots

A German nurse dropped a vial of COVID-19 vaccine in April and replaced the doses with saline. Now, nearly 9,000 people have to get the shot again.

www.businessinsider.com

nurse in Germany who shared anti-vaccine shite on social media was secretly swapping out doses for saline. meaning 9000 over-70s need to be given their shots again to be sure.
this isn't stupidity it's malice.

 

[existentialist]

German nurse swaps vaccine for saline, 9,000 people need new shots

A German nurse dropped a vial of COVID-19 vaccine in April and replaced the doses with saline. Now, nearly 9,000 people have to get the shot again.

www.businessinsider.com

nurse in Germany who shared anti-vaccine shite on social media was secretly swapping out doses for saline. meaning 9000 over-70s need to be given their shots again to be sure.
this isn't stupidity it's malice.

And I hope they throw the book at her. At the very least, it's professional misconduct, and she should be struck off. But I'd hope it's actually a criminal matter. These people need to realise that their beliefs don't supercede scientific reality.

 

[cuppa tee]

Afaik, the last protesters who got past security were against Nick Griffin's appearance on Question Time, back in 2009.

More concerned about the far right/antivaxxers/Qanon etc movement and where it will end.

I have noticed a lot are now disowning qanon, saying it was made up by the ’elite’ to promote Inactivity by promising a non existent plan was in motion...

 

[scifisam]

German nurse swaps vaccine for saline, 9,000 people need new shots

A German nurse dropped a vial of COVID-19 vaccine in April and replaced the doses with saline. Now, nearly 9,000 people have to get the shot again.

www.businessinsider.com

nurse in Germany who shared anti-vaccine shite on social media was secretly swapping out doses for saline. meaning 9000 over-70s need to be given their shots again to be sure.
this isn't stupidity it's malice.

That's got to mean a serious prison sentence.

 

[BigMoaner]

Getting more and more worrying. What has been unleashed?

The weirdest thing is that there will be no humbling period. No time when they say "okay, we were wrong". They've given flesh and bones to the algorithm. They will continue to do their own research

 

[BigMoaner]

I may seem alarmist, but actually go and have a look at these groups on Facebook. Otherwise very ordinary fold coming out with the bizarrest shit. Go to a far right forum and you can kinda predict what gross sick thing they are going to say. With this lot, you kinda look from behind the sofa and think "what the fuck are they going to come out with next!"

 

[WouldBe]

More well informed antivaxxers

'I Am Legend' screenwriter reacts to vaccine conspiracy theories, pointing out the plot is fiction

Just seen that and was going to post the same.

 

[two sheds]

They were right about "turning people into zombie-vampire hybrids" though.

 

[killer b]

go and have a look at these groups on Facebook

if you go looking for nutcases, you'll normally find them tbf

 

[marty21]

There was a camp of them on Shepherds Bush Green some time ago, who stayed there for a week or two before being kicked out by the cops (in the normal charming friendly way the Met have) and the Green was fenced off for ages to stop them coming back. It's open again now and I wouldn't be surprised if it has developed some sort of significance and becomes a meeting point in future. Just what I need

They ended up camping on Hackney Downs, they were still there a few days ago.

 

[Yossarian]

And I hope they throw the book at her. At the very least, it's professional misconduct, and she should be struck off. But I'd hope it's actually a criminal matter.

Should be a murder charge if any of the patients - who were reportedly mostly quite elderly - died, attempted murder if they didn't.

 

[krtek a houby]

if you go looking for nutcases, you'll normally find them tbf

There are well informed antivaxxers unplugging fridges that keep the vaccines cold. Hope people go looking for them.

 

[krtek a houby]

I have noticed a lot are now disowning qanon, saying it was made up by the ’elite’ to promote Inactivity by promising a non existent plan was in motion...

Wow, that's actually good news. The more these movements splinter and come apart the better.

 

[Nylock]

More well informed antivaxxers

'I Am Legend' screenwriter reacts to vaccine conspiracy theories, pointing out the plot is fiction

From that article: "To be clear, vaccines have never caused zombie-like reactions in recipients."

This is where we're at; when a news outlet has to put that statement into an actual report...

 

[LDC]

German nurse swaps vaccine for saline, 9,000 people need new shots

A German nurse dropped a vial of COVID-19 vaccine in April and replaced the doses with saline. Now, nearly 9,000 people have to get the shot again.

www.businessinsider.com

nurse in Germany who shared anti-vaccine shite on social media was secretly swapping out doses for saline. meaning 9000 over-70s need to be given their shots again to be sure.
this isn't stupidity it's malice.

It's the logical end point of where this stuff ends up isn't it? If you think the vaccine is harmful/deadly/part of a plan to kill people/etc. then this nurse almost certainly thought they were saving people's lives. I mean obviously deluded and criminal but this is where it goes. Fucking totally fucked up. Not clear if they've even been arrested yet. TBH I think multiple counts of attempted (or actual?) manslaughter or something similar and then prison for a very long time would be fair. Also how they have been posting anti-vax stuff and then still working in healthcare needs looking into.

 

[two sheds]

Yes I came on to post that she must have thought she was saving lives. Apparently she's only 'suspected' of doing it so far, must be a fairly certain suspicion though.

 

[LDC]

Yes I came on to post that she must have thought she was saving lives. Apparently she's only 'suspected' of doing it so far, must be a fairly certain suspicion though.

Wouldn't at all be surprised if she never gets charged. It'd be a very hard thing to prove, and it's Germany where anti-vax and quack health stuff is pretty mainstream.

 

[LDC]

Facebook shuts accounts in anti-vaccine influencer campaign

Russia-based marketing firm sought to pay social media influencers to smear Covid vaccines

www.theguardian.com

Unknown client, hmmmm.... who could that possibly be?

That's one of the infuriating things about lots of the anti-vax stuff, that they're blissfully unaware they're in part being played by people and institutions, just not the ones they go on about.