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The stupidity of the anti-vaxx nutcases

https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

No you don't understand the science, clearly which is why I need to demand you do as I fucking say! :p

I've done a MSc in a clinical medical field that includes modules on research, and yes I don't get anything at more than a very basic level in some areas, it's fucking complicated so I defer to the people that are experts and have spent decades specialising in the relevant fields.

What's your background in understanding it all?
 
Just the other day i came on here and posted a thing somewhere about how my close & treasured friend has just fallen in love with a hippie vaccine-refuser & i will need to try to like him and am worried because I know that my prejudice is a problem, my paranoid assumption that he must be a conspiracist nut with a little kernel of antisemitism at the heart of it just under the surface.
So this weirdo hasn't helped much with that.
 
I've done a MSc in a clinical medical field that includes modules on research, and yes I don't get anything at more than a very basic level in some areas, it's fucking complicated so I defer to the people that are experts and have spent decades specialising in the relevant fields.

What's your background in understanding it all?

Research on youtube.
 
It seems you haven't been reading my posts.

If you had, you would know that I had Covid.

I even admitted that I was quite scared and that I worried that I might not wake up if I went to sleep and that was with the vaccination.

So yeah, I've been very, very honest about my experiences, even if those experiences weigh against my decision not to take the Covid vaccinations in future.
I've not read all your posts and don't plan to since I'm not a masochist. I had follow up questions to this I was going to ask but I reckon Rob Ray and bimble are right so I'm going to leave it here instead.
 
I've done a MSc in a clinical medical field that includes modules on research, and yes I don't get anything at more than a very basic level in some areas, it's fucking complicated so I defer to the people that are experts and have spent decades specialising in the relevant fields.

What's your background in understanding it all?

Having an MSc means absolutely nothing, nothing at all if can't get your head around a very simple fact there is no one who is unqualified around here telling you that you are wrong.

I don't know exactly what your profession entails, but if it involves patients, I do worry for them, if you can't accept their choices after taking onboard your advice.

My doctor advised me to take Statins. I don't.

My doctor advised me to take blood pressure tablets. I do.

My doctor doesn't tell me that I'm plain wrong not to take Statins ... OK granted, because he/she might not have the time, but fucking hell there has to be a point which people just simply respect other people's choices, even if that choice is the "wrong" choice, because sometimes, people don't have the time to explain all of their reasoning.
 
How have i misrepresented you.
Yes, Because I made pains to explain that I'm not a conspiracy theorist when it comes to globalists, because I simply point people in the direction of the globalists rather than showiing people how I joined the dots. The worst advert for globalists is globalists. By snipping me, you implied that I am.
 
lol. you have joined the dots about Teh Globalists and their great reset, whilst tidying your room for jordan peterson and whining about free speech and the terrible oppression of free vaccines, you boring cliched waste of pixels wanker. Very depressing meeting you.
 
Yes of course patients get a choice, even to make unwise decisions - assuming capacity. TBH I couldn't really care less about you and vaccines, although I think your reasoning is clearly nonsense and you don't know what you're talking about, and you make over-confident pronouncements that show you don't, and are also completely unaware of this.

The Great Reset stuff is more of a concern, you've fallen for a complete load of conspiracy theory nonsense, that also has no evidence behind it. The reasons that worries me (and are broader than just being about you) are:

1) It usually leads to dodgy politics, often racist and reactionary ones.
2) It misidentifies the problem, and so lets the real problem/s off the hook.

Both those are real political problems in the modern world, and a huge obstacle we need to overcome to have a better world. On a more personal level...

3) It takes advantage of vulnerable people and makes their isolation and MH worse, and often financially exploits them.

Anyway, there you go.
 
Yes of course patients get a choice, even to make unwise decisions - assuming capacity. TBH I couldn't really care less about you and vaccines, although I think your reasoning is clearly nonsense and you don't know what you're talking about, and you make over-confident pronouncements that show you don't, and are also completely unaware of this.

The Great Reset stuff is more of a concern, you've fallen for a complete load of conspiracy theory nonsense, that also has no evidence behind it. The reasons that worries me (and are broader than just being about you) are:

1) It usually leads to dodgy politics, often racist and reactionary ones.
2) It misidentifies the problem, and so lets the real problem/s off the hook.

Both those are real political problems in the modern world, and a huge obstacle we need to overcome to have a better world. On a more personal level...

3) It takes advantage of vulnerable people and makes their isolation and MH worse, and often financially exploits them.

Anyway, there you go.
You arrive at your conclusion on 2 pieces of information only. That I'm anti-globalist. I'm right wing.
 
can people maybe just stop indulging this 2pence shitmonger, he's a caricature distillation of exactly what my anti-anti-vax prejudice is all about and the more he talks the more its not helping. I need to believe that not all of them are like this. Not all of them are like this are they?

The odds aren't looking good for this particular example, are they?
 
But you clearly don't understand the studies and science you keep talking about. How can you make decisions around complex science and virology when you clearly don't get what you're looking at? I don't go to the garage and demand they fix my car in a particular way because I watched a video on YouTube about engines.

And globalists? Yeah show us a website or short video that you think explains this Great Reset/globalist thing. And are you completely unaware of the dodgy (and I say that as the milder end of the spectrum) political history to referring to 'globalists'?
You don't own the English language. Fuck off.
 
this was a different thread but here it is tell me i am wrong
My friends fallen in love with some dude, I haven’t met him yet, he sounded fine until she said he’s not vaccinated (by choice not for medical reasons).
This whole thing has become a big deal for me, to such an extent that I think he must therefore be a conspiracist and or a selfish arse. I think I’m being extreme but can’t help it, which makes me sad. It’s not even about the vaccine at all really I just think, what other explanation is there, and my brain jumps to 50 50 he’s an antisemite etc. . Idk if this will be how it goes forever now, that I judge people massively on this one choice they made. I wouldn’t judge him for having a face tattoo but this I do. It’s shit.

Its either the doctors & scientists are lying or else they are wrong and i with my youtube research know better, isnt it.
Which with the way the internet works leads to people like our friend here.
I hate it but i think its true, my friend's boyfriend who I'm meeting next week is going to be a join the dots dickhead.
 
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No. i'm serious though, I have this problem and i really need to believe they are not all like this but i think they are.

I can appreciate not wanting to write someone off. I imagine I would find this whole discussion a whole lot more difficult if I had someone I knew in my life fall down this kind of rabbit hole.

One thing I think you should keep in mind, is that people can find their own way out. They weren't born this way and they don't have to die that way either.
 
this was a different thread but here it is tell me i am wrong
You would have to ask such an invidiual what their views are on a variety of topics.

All I would care about is:

A) Would their beliefs really affect me that much?
B) Do they respect me enough to hold my beliefs and will try to change my beliefs?

But that's me. If you can't stomach someone who's just more right, morally superior and has a halo round the back of their head, then that's your problem! :p
 
You would have to ask such an invidiual what their views are on a variety of topics.

All I would care about is:

A) Would their beliefs really affect me that much?
B) Do they respect me enough to hold my beliefs and will try to change my beliefs?

But that's me. If you can't stomach someone who's just more right, morally superior and has a halo round the back of their head, then that's your problem! :p
is this supposed to be funny
 
I can appreciate not wanting to write someone off. I imagine I would find this whole discussion a whole lot more difficult if I had someone I knew in my life fall down this kind of rabbit hole.

One thing I think you should keep in mind, is that people can find their own way out. They weren't born this way and they don't have to die that way either.
Or how about not change them? If I fell in love with them, why not just leave as they are while the going's good?
 
it's not funny for me though. If i'm right and he's an antisemite then yes it will effect me 'that much', because she's a very beloved friend and i'm not capable of turning a blind eye to that.
The areas of the internet where you do your research are just next door to some very poisonous shit, i'm sure you know that much at least.

BiB, I doubt that TBH, they are not bright enough to realise where they are/heading.
 
it's not funny for me though. If i'm right and he's an antisemite then yes it will effect me 'that much', because she's a very beloved friend and i'm not capable of turning a blind eye to that.
The areas of the internet where you do your research are just next door to some very poisonous shit, i'm sure you know that much at least.
Are you talking about the boyfriend of one of your friends or your boyfriend?
 
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