gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
This one is even worse ...
The stupidity of the anti-vaxx nutcases
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gentlegreen
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farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
That's pretty sick. Looking at the articles about them, there is no mention of vaccines - and sadly some young people do just die.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Yes - it's even more crazy than pulling big numbers off VAERS / UK Yellow card ...So twats don't know whether they'd been vaccinated they just add them to the list anyway, take advantage of young peoples' deaths.
It's so pathetic it makes you wonder if it's all "Q"-type stuff - anything goes to "own the libs"
My own antivaxxer is into this crap because she clearly has massive issues of self-esteem and needs a distraction.
Along with her crazy number of near identical rabbit in headlight selfies, she sometimes has loads of memes about being called "ugly" .
I wish I'd grabbed screenshots ...
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gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
My Paltalk "project" antivaxxer has had another "blip".
Gone are the multiple near-identical rabbit-in-headlight selfies and vaccine-damaged children, in comes her scary doll collection and third Reich imagery.
Gone are the multiple near-identical rabbit-in-headlight selfies and vaccine-damaged children, in comes her scary doll collection and third Reich imagery.
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Wonder if they realise what they've got themselves into, when they start using such imagery?
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
She's ethnically Peruvian - would not have fared well under the Nazi regime ...
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
A Jewish friend of mine went all antivaxx and posted right wing talking points in the last few years. It's quite upsetting.
Pro-Ukraine aswell
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Pro-Ukraine aswell
Relevance?
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
People in chatrooms hand them out as gifts and quite a few PalTalkers don't know how to get into settings and remove them..Pro-Ukraine aswell
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
The photos are going back on.
Just an observation.
Yossarian
⏭️
I wonder if any of these idiots are still hoping to get rich selling their "unvaccinated sperm."
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Course they bloody don't.
Its good to debunk stuff and it can be fun to have a laugh at crackpots but regarding the anti-lockdown/vaccine mandate issues in the UK., I do think we should have tried to reach atleast some of those people and should have aimed to do that - and for a long while I didn't see it that way. With some of them its a complete waste of time ofcourse and some of them have their own nefarious agenda and theres the nutcases too.
But to be honest I do personally now think the anarchists and the left ceded ground to the right and far right and elements of the ruling class on that one. And we should have reached out to these people and tried to get our message across because they have much in common with us - alot of them are ordinary working class people who are anti-authoritarian and discontented and who want to get rid of the system and don't trust authority. Many of them apparently share the same concerns as many of us – inequality, austerity and the surveillance state for example. Whereas much of the left (including the liberal left) are authoritarian and conservative in their own way and just want 'the right people' in power - they are reactionary, not revolutionary or anti-authoritarian and they have their own bullshit orthodoxy and they fire blanket discontent.
Yes the analysis of some of the anti-vaxxer/anti-lockdown crowd is awful, but we should have been there to provide our own analysis really. And just as a lot of the anti-vax /conspiracist stuff is illogical, the same can be said in my view, of electoralist/parliamentary/statist politics and the belief that all we need is ‘the right people’ in charge. However that whole anti-lockdown/anti-vaccine mandate movement seems to have fizzled out, so I think we should focus on resisting the energy price rises, linking stuff to that and getting some solidarity on that off the ground.
But to be honest I do personally now think the anarchists and the left ceded ground to the right and far right and elements of the ruling class on that one. And we should have reached out to these people and tried to get our message across because they have much in common with us - alot of them are ordinary working class people who are anti-authoritarian and discontented and who want to get rid of the system and don't trust authority. Many of them apparently share the same concerns as many of us – inequality, austerity and the surveillance state for example. Whereas much of the left (including the liberal left) are authoritarian and conservative in their own way and just want 'the right people' in power - they are reactionary, not revolutionary or anti-authoritarian and they have their own bullshit orthodoxy and they fire blanket discontent.
Yes the analysis of some of the anti-vaxxer/anti-lockdown crowd is awful, but we should have been there to provide our own analysis really. And just as a lot of the anti-vax /conspiracist stuff is illogical, the same can be said in my view, of electoralist/parliamentary/statist politics and the belief that all we need is ‘the right people’ in charge. However that whole anti-lockdown/anti-vaccine mandate movement seems to have fizzled out, so I think we should focus on resisting the energy price rises, linking stuff to that and getting some solidarity on that off the ground.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I think you're mistaking their performative anti-authoritarianism for the real deal. These people were perfectly fine with "the system" right up until they were asked to inconvenience themselves for others.
I've actually tried that. They're not interested. They think that most other ordinary people are just a flock of dumb sheep being manipulated by The Cabal.
souljacker
innit
Also, the ones I know seem to have no intention of getting off their arse and doing anything about it. They are far happier sending 2 hour videos to people. The nearest they come to protest is not wearing a mask and swaggering about Tesco waiting for someone to pull them up on it so they can film the row.
They're not all like that though. And don't get me wrong, I don't think we can get through to all of them, as I said. But a mate of mine tells me he's got through to a couple of them that he knows. He sympathises with them coz he can see how they've been used and mislead, which is what happened to him in the past with the whole conspiracist thing. But he is aware of the realities and problems with that sort of crowd - according to him though, that doesn't mean we can't reach atleast some of them, who he says are more likeminded than we may realise.
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I think it may work on some on the cusp of being turned by it and usually aren’t mad but that just takes a brief conversation for them to get some perspective. Further than that they tend to be beyond hope. Argue factually and they’ll counter it by pointing to a crackpot website with alternative facts. The ruling class couldn’t have dreamed of better than a bloc all blaming the wrong things.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Aye, if you have a word early doors with someone coming under the influence of anti-vax, then you have a chance of persuading them that it's a pile of cack. But once they've fully drunk the kool aid, forget it - unless you have the time or inclination, or can be arsed to do some solid reprogramming on them.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Pro-Ukraine aswell
Prick.
Pro-Ukraine aswell
A pox on both of their houses.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I think we've all had enough of infectious diseases these past few years.
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Homophobic antivaxxer inspired by god
Lawrence man accused of murdering his wife, a former KU soccer player; chief says suspect told dispatcher that God told him to kill her
Lawrence man accused of murdering his wife, a former KU soccer player; chief says suspect told dispatcher that God told him to kill her
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
I think assuming these nutters are more or less on the same side has been really damaging in the past to be honest. Absolutely challenge and try and engage with those who aren't fully down the rabbit hole but I think you need zero tolerance for conspiracy nonsense of any sort, I don't think it can be accommodated under some sort of combined anti-establishment banner.
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