existentialist
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I think this is a bit of an unhelpful bit of axe grinding on a serious and important thread, TBH.
the sir jimmy savile obe thread
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Reading those - just fucking awful. Hideous. Just.... horrible
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
"This interview is being conducted in your office at The National Spinal Injuries Centre at Stoke Mandeville Hospital. So you've kindly let us use this room here."
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elbows
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Yeah I posted the transcript links the other day. Apart from the stuff these news articles have focussed on, he was also very keen to keep going on about how Duncroft was really a borstal. He also made a big deal about his police mates and suggested he could get favours from a forensics lab.
Nothing in the transcript was very surprising, at least probably not for anyone thats read other interviews with the egotistical power-mad shit whose brand of denials, lies and attempts at intimidation were not exactly subtle.
Meanwhile a former West Yorkshire police inspector is being investigated by the IPCC to see whether he inappropriately contacted Surrey police ahead of the interview:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24557322
Nothing in the transcript was very surprising, at least probably not for anyone thats read other interviews with the egotistical power-mad shit whose brand of denials, lies and attempts at intimidation were not exactly subtle.
Meanwhile a former West Yorkshire police inspector is being investigated by the IPCC to see whether he inappropriately contacted Surrey police ahead of the interview:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24557322
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Hey, a posh borstal, for posh girls.
brogdale
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IPCC? Surely his fellow masons at WYP should be able to investigate? After all, there are no claims that anyone as important as a tory MP have suffered any harm.
Wilf
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who's the mammy?
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Good old West Yorkshire police. Looking after their local child abusers.
Pickman's model
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but not looking for them
pinkmonkey
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I've just read the transcript and feel a bit sick. Oh my ...... he does go on a bit too much at the end of that interview.
clicker
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Reading those transcripts , I can clearly hear him and see him saying those things, he so was the face of seventies TV and the face of charity and the face of giving presents out in hospitals . really sickening to read his denials. He thought he was untouchable and in his eyes he probably won.
clicker said:Reading those transcripts , I can clearly hear him and see him saying those things, he so was the face of seventies TV and the face of charity and the face of giving presents out in hospitals . really sickening to read his denials. He thought he was untouchable and in his eyes he probably won.
Look up This is your Life on youtube. He walks on with his charity t-shirt: his shield against accusations. At one point a sister of his comes on and he 'jokingly' forms a pose as if he'll punch her. Jimmy the eccentric. Keep your mouth shut.
clicker
nanook rubs it....
I think i remember his episode - every time I saw him on TV as a kid i thought he was rude and scary and aggressive, could never understand his appeal.I tried to open the link above on my phone yesterday, and somehow managed to download it, but couldn't open it and now I can't find it in the phone...it's in there somewhere putrefying.
existentialist
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Is there a Masonic connection, then? I mean, as part of this business, rather than circumstantially/wild speculation-wise?IPCC? Surely his fellow masons at WYP should be able to investigate? After all, there are no claims that anyone as important as a tory MP have suffered any harm.
existentialist
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I wasn't that shocked, though I was still appalled at the blatantness of the coverups and collusion that has emerged. Anyone who has ever even considered having to report an incident of child sexual abuse and/or got a hint of the prevailing attitudes of 10, 20, 30 years ago isn't going to be that surprised at how much of an uphill struggle it was likely to be.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Well, he used to have members of the WYP around his gaff every friday; I'd say that's almost certainly evidence of being on the square with the fuckers.
brogdale
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How did you react to the Louis Theroux doc. from 2000?
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clicker
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Must admit glued to the telly , I think louis did it perfectly really, gave him just enough rope to completely hang himself , if there were any people out there under the impression jimmy was a 'nice guy'....I remember he had a friend in that doc - wonder who the person was he took into the first taped police interview, it wasn't a solicitor and think his name may be blacked out in the transcript.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Likewise, I remember being fascinated by that episode. Mind you, Louis' description of the process of producing the programme, and his views about Savile, makes difficult reading now:-
http://louistheroux.com/jimmy-savile/
Wilf
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It was fascinating. Remember seeing it was going to be on TV and thinking why the fuck is he interviewing him? To me Savile was just an irritating prat who had disappeared from the public view years ago, but still found it riveting. The thing I got from it was how deeply unpleasant and manipulative Savile was, but was utterly nonplussed when theroux asked him outright about the rumours of him abusing children. Suppose I was equally nonplussed that, at least on camera, Savile just swatted it off and didn't do an 'astonished' reaction (of course he wasn't astonished by the accusation as he'd been interviewed by employers and police by then).
At one level Theroux was quite brave to come straight out with it. I do have a slight niggle though. If he knew enough to ask him outright (and had obviously done a lot of research for the programme), was he knowingly making a problem about a child abuser? If that was the case, should the programme have been different and had more of a focus on the 'rumours'. All a bit speculative and he clearly can't have known the extent of Savile's crimes, but he must have known a fair bit to broach the subject.
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
the bit where savile casually showed theroux his own home adress written down and mentioned that he knew people was dark as fuck. The paedo rumours were around for ages but it was that docu that made me start believing them
littlebabyjesus
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With the benefit of hindsight, Theroux is another person in a very long list who turned a blind eye. And like many of those turning their blind eyes, he may not have been totally aware that this was what he was doing.
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