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According to ITV

Here is a list of the medical sites where Jimmy Savile offended, including the number of offences he committed and what date they occurred.
  • Leeds General Infirmary (LGI) - 16 offences between 1965 and 1995.
  • Stoke Mandeville Hospital - 22 offences between 1965 and 1988.
  • Broadmoor Hospital - one offence in 1991.
  • Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust: St James University Hospital - one offence in 1962.
  • High Royds Hospital - one offence in 1989.
  • Dewsbury and District Hospital - one offence in 1969.
  • Wycombe General Hospital - one offence.
  • Great Ormond Street Hospital - one offence in 1971.
  • Ashworth Hospital- one offence in 1971.
  • Exeter Hospital - one offence in 1970.
  • Portsmouth Royal Hospital - one offence in 1964.
  • St. Catherine's Hospital - one offence in 1964.
  • Saxondale Hospital - one offence in 1971.
  • Wheatfields Hospice - one offence in 1971.
fuck knows how he found the time for a prolifick radio and television career.
 
The porter business. I wonder if the attention to detail he paid to that line of his voluntary work is verifiable or if it will stay as rumour forever.
 
The porter business. I wonder if the attention to detail he paid to that line of his voluntary work is verifiable or if it will stay as rumour forever.

The only way would be to dis-inter potential victims and do DNA tests on the corpse's orifices. Hardly likely to happen.
 
You make it sound such a chore!

I suppose it's partly that and partly that coffins are not designed to maintain the integrity of what's in them; either the rightful, documented whole inhabitants who are supposed to be in there, or any remnants of anything biological as deposited by opportunistic bastard necrophiliacs.
And who knows, if you were a porter of dead people you might very well be privy to paperwork concerning whether the recently departed was destined to be buried or cremated and so if you were a sad deviant corpse raping bastard who had a smidgin of wariness about the possibility of future discovery, no doubt you could manage to limit your rapery to those whose remains were destined for the crematorium.

Fuck me. I feel sick even thinking that.
 
I imagine Saville would have preferred the knowledge that his seed had been left to fester in the corpses he had abused rather than been cremated. I may have misjudged him though.
 
I'm not quite sure if this is exactly the right place to put updates on my recent interactions with the police...

Today I got a phone message from a detective constable who works in a specialised team that deals only with abuse cases. Again, all terribly reassuring - these people really, really do want to put you at your ease - and advising me on progress, which is that arrests will take place, and they may want to come down here to take a further statement. Ulp.
 
hope you're ok, existentialist. glad to hear that it's going ok, - good on you for going forward.
i went through a fair bit of the same process as you a few years ago, and the team i made statements with/kept in contact with until the whole thing 'finished' were brilliant. i couldn't have asked for them to handle it better.
be nice to yourself tonight, and love and strength to ya x
 
Yeah, I'm fine. It all kind of crashes in and disappears just as quickly - but then that's 40-odd years of some quite creative repressing being unravelled, so it's not a complete surprise. And I guess having spent the last 9 years learning how heads work has been useful... :)
 
hope you're ok, existentialist. glad to hear that it's going ok, - good on you for going forward.
i went through a fair bit of the same process as you a few years ago, and the team i made statements with/kept in contact with until the whole thing 'finished' were brilliant. i couldn't have asked for them to handle it better.
be nice to yourself tonight, and love and strength to ya x
I remember you talking about this and thinking how you seemed to be dealing with it in an admirable manner. Was the case resolved in a satisfactory way? (If you don't mind me asking)
 
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um.. thank you for the 'admirable manner' bit, imo i managed to get through it but i was a carcrash pretty much the whole time :oops: :D i *think* i'm a fair bit more sorted these days :)
the cps said there wasn't enough evidence to take it to court, so that was it, afaik. the whole thing took about (and my dates are a little fuzzy) about eight? months from the date i first contacted the police, through to getting the cps decision.
 
Did it give you any closure, despite the lack of prosecution? If you don't mind me asking.
 
I drawn this to attention and make no comment.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21154999

1 rape and 14 indecent assault charges. The OB and CPS must be pretty sure they're going to make it stick to lay on a whole slate of charges rather than just using a couple.
What's the odds Hall plays the old "I don't remember, it was so long ago" card and/or the "I've got Saunders-type Alzheimers, you know?" card?
 
No, thanks for that Minnie.
Besides calling the author of the graffiti "A vandal" (BBC) what will ANY of the island's State Media, or authorities, be doing to encourage, and assure, the victim to come forward (possibly again)?
Indeed.
 
The police mates angle lives:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21520060


An ex-policeman is being investigated over claims he "acted on behalf" of Jimmy Savile before he was interviewed about sexual assault allegations.
The former police inspector has been referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) by West Yorkshire Police.
The officer allegedly contacted Surrey Police ahead of the late TV presenter being interviewed in 2009.

The referral from West Yorkshire Police follows a direction from the IPCC regarding the former inspector, identified in a Surrey Police report as "Inspector 5".
 
To continue with my occasional derail of this thread...

I've now had a couple of phone calls from a detective constable in the Met - it seems that they are taking my statement very seriously. The trend towards encouragement and reassurance continues, too, with this particular officer being at pains at every turn of the way to assure me that I am at no risk from the parties I've made allegations against, etc. That matters perhaps less to me than it might to others, but I do appreciate it - it's very different from my past encounters with Her Majesty's Finest Constabulary.

Today, I had a call to say that they interviewed one of the parties under caution earlier this week. He apparently replied "No comment" to every question that was put to him. Which means, it seems, that it is almost inevitable that it's going to go to a court case, assuming the CPS decide there's enough evidence to charge.

I did wonder about farming this off to a separate thread, but it seems to me that, as a first-hand narrative of what happens when someone does make a historical allegation of sexual abuse, maybe it fits quite nicely here as a kind of counterpoint to the "big picture" stuff. Which also offers me the advantage that it's a bit more lost in the noise, and rather less blatantly visible than if it had a thread all to itself.
 
i don't want to resurrect my original thread, but.. i'm going back to derailing this one and then deleting instead :oops:

/derail
 
Tufty, I am responsible for doing risk assessments in relation to criminal records checks for some people who work in schools, but not directly with kids. Even in that case as a school is a protected site we have to get enhanced CRB's. These should in theory be checked by a police officer and allegations of concern should be flagged up even if they didn't result in a prosecution. These may or may not be passed on to the organisation at the discretion of that police officer.

So the chances are that it will have been flagged up somewhere that this person has some history and hopefully they will be monitored as a result.

As I'm sure you can understand it's an extremely difficult tightrope to walk as there is scope for innocent peoples lives being ruined too.
 
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