the sir jimmy savile obe thread

[Tankus]

A banker teller gets blinded to the value of money until some goes missing.......Same with those who run a boarding school ?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

A banker teller gets blinded to the value of money until some goes missing.......Same with those who run a boarding school ?

Was Bryn Estyn a boarding school? Or are you talking about somewhere else?

 

[OnTheLevel]

I liked somebody's guess on that site that Newsnight don't actually have a name, but are waiting to see which politician's lawyers contact them first with a threatening phone call

LOL, you're probably right, I wouldn't put it past them. But then again, they could well have several names that they could expose but can't because they know they'd face a libel suit. The mainstream media don't have the balls to name names, except for the ones we already know about, like Gary Glitter, or ones who are dead, like Savile. It seems that they are trying to muddy the waters by focusing only on the low level pedophiles instead of going after the wider network that includes major politicians. At least we can rely on the alternative media to expose some of the big names who are involved in the child trafficking industry. For example, check out these videos:

Jimmy Savile's Real Life - Elite Paedophile Ring Exposed


Ben Fellows talks about child abuse in the media

 

[Citizen66]

Ah yes, the credible Ben Fellows.

 

[editor]

I'm having supreme trouble taking anything coming from an outfit called 'Truth Vibes' seriously.

Oh hang on, There's a David Icke connection too.

 

[DexterTCN]

...Oh hang on, There's a David Icke connection too.

Icke was right about savile, apparently.

I see one of those youtube videos is 2 hours long.....not happening.

 

[tufty79]

almost half of the first one was clips of chitty chitty bang bang, interspersed with clips/pics of JS, with a dancey soundtrack.
i'd count that as a credible news story

 

[elbows]

As the UK Column keeps pedalling the Fellows stuff, I shall link to a thread from the past where Brian Gerrish was at least partially dissected.

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/the-common-purpose.228282/#post-8263363

Background info:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Brian_Gerrish

 

[elbows]

Another tv coverup, I missed this story when it was first published.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...ntary-on-paedophile-john-owen-91466-32103168/

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One of Wales’ most prominent film directors has entered the Jimmy Savile controversy by accusing the BBC and ITV of refusing to commission a documentary he proposed about paedophile dramatist John Owen.​

Karl Francis, a former head of drama at BBC Wales, alleges that neither broadcaster had been prepared to screen the proposed programme because it would have highlighted Owen’s abuse of teenagers while they worked with him on TV programmes, as well as embarrassing the Welsh language “establishment”.​

John Owen committed suicide in 2001. He had been due to stand trial for offences allegedly committed against pupils of Rhydfelen Welsh medium comprehensive school in Pontypridd, where he had been a drama teacher.​

His death provoked huge controversy, with suggestions from relatives of his alleged victims that Mr Owen had been protected because of his prominent position in Welsh language media circles. Many prominent people attended his funeral.​

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“The fascinating thing, of course, is the way in which someone like John Owen can completely dominate other people and live a very secret life. The fact that he was directing young actors, naked, for S4C and HTV, would have been known to these people, together with the fact that he had been the subject of a paedophile inquiry a few years earlier. We need to question the judgement of the people who employed him.”

 

[little_legs]

29 BBC staff face claims of sexual misconduct

 

[elbows]

This was probably posted before but for me it remains one of the most revealing articles so far about the BBC's past and wider cultural issues:

http://cdn.lrb.co.uk/v34/n21/andrew...1&hq_e=el&hq_m=2081107&hq_l=5&hq_v=8853d77b01

 

[DotCommunist]

Are ben fellows vids the new HIGNFY transcript or what?

 

[elbows]

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/newsuknewssavileinquiry/article1159135.ece

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JIMMY SAVILE was so close to Prince Charles that he advised him on the appointment of one of his most senior aides, The Sunday Times has learnt.​

In an indication of the power and privilege extended to Savile by the royal family, Charles asked the DJ and television presenter for advice before selecting Sir Christopher Airy to be his private secretary in 1990.​

Savile and Charles met Airy, a former major-general, before he was offered the post, according to an informed source.​

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[caoineadh7]

As his Psycological makeup was mentioned, - sorry this might have been posted - I remembered this. Jimmy Savile interviewed by Dr Anthony Clare for his In the Psychiatrists Chair, program, 1992. Only an extract. Can't find full audio. Obviously it's even creepier given hinesight.
https://audioboo.fm/boos/526151-jimmy-savile-dr-anthony-clare-radio-4

I always found the Fonz suspect, I mean a 30 yr old bloke hanging around all those kids in a fast food diner.

 

[framed]

almost half of the first one was clips of chitty chitty bang bang, interspersed with clips/pics of JS, with a dancey soundtrack.
i'd count that as a credible news story

That child catcher bastard from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang really freaked me out as a kid...

 

[butchersapron]

As john Robb reminds us:

Down at Stoke Mandeville I bumped into Mr IQ
I said “Hey albino, this is not 1972
Stub out your King Edward and get that small boy off your knee
And melt down your rings and things and get yourself off my TV”

Jim could you fix it for me
To come down and suck out your kidneys?
I’ve got this young brother, you see
Who wants to stay alive to watch Bilko

 

[phildwyer]

As john Robb reminds us:

Down at Stoke Mandeville I bumped into Mr IQ
I said “Hey albino, this is not 1972
Stub out your King Edward and get that small boy off your knee
And melt down your rings and things and get yourself off my TV”

Jim could you fix it for me
To come down and suck out your kidneys?
I’ve got this young brother, you see
Who wants to stay alive to watch Bilko

Well it's better than the one you usually quote... "the sparrow of Cardiff" and all that...

 

[framed]

This was probably posted before but for me it remains one of the most revealing articles so far about the BBC's past and wider cultural issues:

http://cdn.lrb.co.uk/v34/n21/andrew...1&hq_e=el&hq_m=2081107&hq_l=5&hq_v=8853d77b01

Thanks for posting that. As you say it is a very revealing article about the internal culture of the BBC going back almost to its beginnings.

One thing that grates in it, and O'Hagan is by no means the only commentator to lean on this particular deceit, is that 'the public made Jimmy Savile'. He repeats this a couple of times during the article as if we all voted for the old pervert to be given carte blanche for 50 years. The 'public' outside of Leeds would most likely never have heard of Jimmy Savile had it not been for the BBC's promotion of him.

I'd love 'the public' to be able to wield the sort of power that journalists bestow upon them. The truth however is that his relentless self-promotion was supported by the BBC and most of the popular newspapers. It is they who determine what 'the public' wants and what 'the public' gets.

As Mr Weller once said:

"The public wants what the public gets,
But I don't get what this society wants..."

 

[butchersapron]

Indeed, the this is what you wanted line mirrors the most grotesque excuses of abusers.

 

[Prole]

A seaside flat where Jimmy Savile entertained police cronies has not been searched by cops even though it is just about to be sold.

Fears are growing that vital clues to the pervert DJ's secret life could be lost if his flat on the fashionable Esplanade in Scarborough, North Yorkshire, is not examined soon.

It is now being sold to a buyer who reportedly offered £200,000 - £25,000 over the asking price.

Neighbours say that Savile's "Friday Morning Club" of mainly police officer pals who met at his Leeds home sometimes visited Scarborough too.

Local MP Robert Goodwill said: "I'm surprised they have not checked out the property before any evidence can be compromised. No stone should be left unturned."

A spokesman for the Metropolitan police, organising the investigation, said: "We are not giving a running commentary on this case. We are not saying where we are searching."

Jimmy Savile: Police fail to search his Scarborough flat for clues - Mirror Online

.. and where are all the arrests we were told to expect? Just the usual suspects, GG and Starr so far.

 

[Prole]

Former detective makes shock claims that Jimmy Savile was quizzed over Yorkshire Ripper murders

Member of the public named Savile as a 'potential Ripper suspect'
Peter Sutcliffe today rubbished claims that Savile abused patient at Broadmoor mental hospital, where he is a patient
Yorkshire Ripper claims Savile was his 'friend' and donated money to charities Sutcliffe supported

By Anna Edwards

PUBLISHED: 18:31, 6 November 2012 | UPDATED: 21:15, 6 November 2012

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A former detective who helped catch the Yorkshire Ripper has tonight made the shocking claim that Jimmy Savile was quizzed over the serial murderer's crimes.

Former West Yorkshire detective John Stainthorpe told ITV Yorkshire Calendar News that Savile was brought in for questioning after members of the public contacted the police naming the eccentric DJ as a possible killer.

Mr Stainthorpe, who worked for the West Yorkshire force for more than 40 years, and who spent years trying to catch Peter Sutcliffe, told the programme: 'When the Ripper was really active one of the suspects put forward by members of the public was Jimmy Savile, strange as it may seem

here: Jimmy Savile 'quizzed over Yorkshire Ripper murders' | Mail Online.

 

[Orang Utan]

There may have been two killers!
Or maybe he's Wearside Jack!

 

[Greebo]

Front page of the Sun today (among other things) the Yorkshire Ripper claiming he knows that Savile is innocent. A new low, even for that rag.

 

[starfish]

Front page of the Sun today (among other things) the Yorkshire Ripper claiming he knows that Savile is innocent. A new low, even for that rag.

I saw someone reading that on the train today. A real ringing endorsement.

 

[Prole]

The Mail included the Roundhay Park murder but omitted this:

Mr Sutcliffe also told police he left the murder scene after he heard voices, but couldn't tell where they came from. He also heard a car being driven away from the entrance to a house. Later he found out that the house was where disc jockey Jimmy Savile lived.

http://www.execulink.com/~kbrannen/trial03.htm

 

[Barking_Mad]

Prince Charles enlisted Jimmy Savile as a royal party organiser and asked him to invite guests to Kensington Palace on his behalf, it has emerged.
Savile invited a group of television producers involved in an ITV telethon in 1988 to a cocktail party at the palace. He was not involved with the telethon, of which Prince Charles was patron, and did not attend the party.
Paul Laing, a former director of programmes at Television South West, who took one of Savile's calls, said several of his colleagues were contacted and many thought it was "weird" that the star was involved in organising royal engagements.
"He was phoning to invite the producers, one from each station, to go to a cocktail party in Kensington Palace," Laing said. "He said he was phoning from the prince's office on behalf of Prince Charles. He said he had been asked to organise a get-together as Prince Charles was so pleased with the telethon he wanted to say thank you."
Savile's role, apparently at the heart of Charles's household, was confirmed by a spokesman for the prince. It will increase scrutiny of theheir's dealings with the now disgraced TV star. Savile heavily publicised his closeness to the royals, giving the impression, some observers believe, of approval from the highest stratum of British society that may have helped him to hide his criminal activity "in plain sight".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/07/jimmy-savile-party-prince-charles

 

[Prole]

Jimmy Savile and Yorkshire Ripper: Cast of DJ's teeth was made to check against bites left on Peter Sutcliffe's victims | Mail Online

 

[elbows]

How much attention has there been to the possibility that Savile was protected when he was alive because he had dirt on other people?

 

[ViolentPanda]

How much attention has there been to the possibility that Savile was protected when he was alive because he had dirt on other people?

Not too much except multiple reiterations of his "I'd take half the coppers with me" boast.

 

[yardbird]

Arrest
Jimmie's old flatmate.