In the Spectator, owned by the Barclay Brothers, who don't have an interest in knocking Leveson on any excuse, oh no.
the sir jimmy savile obe thread
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In the Spectator, owned by the Barclay Brothers, who don't have an interest in knocking Leveson on any excuse, oh no.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Doesn't detract from the story/claim though does it? It might provide a pointer as to why they have ran it, but it doesn't effect the content of the story (which has been around for a while now - long before the spectator printed this piece) - or do you think that it does? If so, how?
Linking may be very much an issue - I just this morning pointed out to an editor-in-chief that though we don't know for sure that linking to a libel counts as repeating it, all that means is that finding out is four times as expensive as defending a straight repeat of it. I'm sure Mr Justice Eady has two draft judgements already.
It's the deadness that matters.
Just to be clear.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Things that the press would rather you didn't know ...
http://hackinginquiry.org/uncategorised/ten-things-the-press-would-rather-you-didnt-know/
If I have a spare moment I'm going to look around for hints of Savile himself getting injunctions against reports of his activity while he was alive.
Or of others getting injunctions against suggestions that they were accessories.
Such threats from those who can afford the services of Schillings or Carter-Fuck would be much more effective, had they been made. I vaguely remember mutterings about Savile having expensive taste in lawyers.
I didn't read the whole Spectator piece - I'm currently skiving from a skive at work - but the first couple pars shrieked "anti-Leveson agenda" at me.
Feel free to beat me to it
elbows
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I was sort of hoping that the libel laws of this country would have been broken by the internet by now. Instead we have a bizarre situation where in some sense the libel laws are actually making it more likely that some will be libelled online, the speculation on twitter being a prime example. People filling the void left by the timid press, the long-existing rumour mill sped up and turned into the written word, with no requirement that readers actually be a part of the social circle doing the gossiping.
They just had an hour long program about Jimmy Saville on the Chinese news!
ohmyliver
poppin' like a cork
We can only hope that Next Media Animation covers it.
elbows
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A little bit of gangster stuff in this article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/02/bbc-jimmy-savile
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/02/bbc-jimmy-savile
elbows
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Someone finally got round to getting a copy of the first In The Psychiatrists Chair book, or obtained the transcript of the Savile episode elsewhere. A fair proportion of whats discussed is what was already linked to here very recently as audio clips, but there is a bit more as well.
http://www.channel4.com/news/how-jimmy-savile-revealed-all-in-the-psychiatrists-chair
http://www.channel4.com/news/how-jimmy-savile-revealed-all-in-the-psychiatrists-chair
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
ska invita
back on the other side
Have spent the evening with someone who has done a fair bit of sound work at the BBC. I was asking him about the culture there, re JS, and he said one thing about the BBC building is that its a massive warren and as such you cant just walk around in there...your every step is approved and monitored, otherwise people would get lost immediately. In terms of dressing rooms and access to them, this is also highly monitored, with cameras and also doormen and microphone permission.
He said there is no way that not everyone who could know knew what was going on inside that building and its dressing rooms...its a building of no secrets<<<was his opinion....
that said he said having worked in much of UK media at some point or other the BBC still is a treasure and needs protecting to the last...he made a good case tbf.
He said there is no way that not everyone who could know knew what was going on inside that building and its dressing rooms...its a building of no secrets<<<was his opinion....
that said he said having worked in much of UK media at some point or other the BBC still is a treasure and needs protecting to the last...he made a good case tbf.
elbows said:
Interesting line about only going half way round the course if he could get away with it. Someone on another Savile thread mentioned that their gran I think had never seen him on marathon despite living on course and standing out watching every year.
One of his lesser crimes obviously but another insight, if true.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Former Headteacher of Duncroft pissing all over the claims of the pupils she was in loco parentis for:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/03/jimmy-savile-accusers-money-headteacher
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
And that shows exactly how this sort off thing happens what's required to allow it to happen.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Have spent the evening with someone who has done a fair bit of sound work at the BBC. I was asking him about the culture there, re JS, and he said one thing about the BBC building is that its a massive warren and as such you cant just walk around in there...your every step is approved and monitored, otherwise people would get lost immediately. In terms of dressing rooms and access to them, this is also highly monitored, with cameras and also doormen and microphone permission.
He said there is no way that not everyone who could know knew what was going on inside that building and its dressing rooms...its a building of no secrets<<<was his opinion....
that said he said having worked in much of UK media at some point or other the BBC still is a treasure and needs protecting to the last...he made a good case tbf.
looks a bit like the millenium falcon.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
What a cunt
I've only just read the interview and feel that the lady (read bitch) ex headmistress missed the part of her job description that says "must be able to empathise with damaged and distressed delinquents"!
She seems to empathise with the dark side of people in power.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Maybe empathise.
sickening woman
Ta.
It was for me an early hour for Sunday.
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
It's quite unbelieveable that someone like this should have been in loco parentis to vulnerable children. What fucking chance did these girls have?
In retrospect, I feel damn lucky that I wasn't abused. I do wonder about some of my peers though. Heard plenty of stories in the intervening years about teachers being fired and going on the sex offenders register from my boarding school.
I'm feeling a lot of fury right now against this callous bitch. She never believed in the children entrusted to her care, and now years later she dismisses them as "well-known delinquents". Abuse includes emotional abuse and neglect, and she sounds like a perpetrator.
All child development approaches now acknowledge that the best place for a child is in the parental home, except in extreme circumstances. Institutions cannot hope to provide the level of warmth and security a life with parents and siblings does. Unfortunately for some children, they can end up in institutions.
However, we have a tradition of the elite actively sending their kids away to such places and creating generations of emotionally stunted, repressed and wounded people who generally gain more influential positions in society than those who lived at home and were educated in the state sector. This is more a psychological observation borne of findings of psychotherapists working with ex-care leavers and boarding school "survivors", but when you consider the proportion of cabinet ministers who were institutionalised at a young age it does give pause for thought.
Sorry for the rambling derail...
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Unbelieveable, but unfortunately it happened/happens. There were plenty of others like her, and for those that weren't physically/sexually abused, there were plenty that were abusive of their positions in other ways
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