SpineyNorman
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Yet again this tedious prick has nothing to say about the topic so instead resorts to personal attacks on other posters. You're a cancer on these boards crock of shite.
the sir jimmy savile obe thread
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Yet again this tedious prick has nothing to say about the topic so instead resorts to personal attacks on other posters. You're a cancer on these boards crock of shite.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
i'm usually polite but i've got a very, very low tolerance when it comes to people trying to promote anti-semitic shit. especially on the back of a scandal involving hundreds of kids being sexually abused and a coverup that's lasted decades. We've already seen how allegations of abuse against saville were disbelieved even on these boards, if the conspiracy loons use it promote their filthy ideas then this is likely to lead to more allegations of abuse by important figures being dismissed, as they were in saville's lifetime.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Sod off fuckhead.
DarthSydodyas
rusting
DarthSydodyas
rusting
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
at this rate the last time you'll have called something correctly will remain 2002/03 for a long time to come
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You mentioned all the usual tropes in your post that usually go toward blaming Jews for everything, so why are you surprised that I mock you by drawing attention to that?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
"Broadening out a discussion" usually implies a factual basis on which the broadening is constructed. Your "broadening out" is speculative - it's "wht if X and Y are connected?", not "X and Y are connected, therefore...".
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Dunno but he always had a massive phallic cigar.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, Nino. Surely you know that!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
A stork
Ickeforumlol : responding to "why do paedos do it?"
If I could ask that the AGENDA behind all of this be exposed.
That the very essence of LIFE is involved, and that the young children have a huge amount of a duality of spin substance that enables life, and enables also the ability to trip about in dimensions and TIME.
If I could ask that the AGENDA behind all of this be exposed.
That the very essence of LIFE is involved, and that the young children have a huge amount of a duality of spin substance that enables life, and enables also the ability to trip about in dimensions and TIME.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, Nino. Surely you know that!
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Johnny Canuck3
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Say what?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
for the hard of thinking i said that 'looking at those photos it's amazing he wasn't sussed fifty years ago'.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Funny: I said pretty much the same thing in a thread about a week ago, and maybe 25 people lined up to rip me a new asshole.
I can't remember if you were one of them or not.
You remember the thread: the one where people invited me to post up a picture of myself for judgement.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Since seeing the photo of the Nuero Linguistics dating bloke on another thread I have decided your theory is worthy of more study and would like to set a crack team of scientists on it.
I don't know any crack scientists though (well, you know)
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
don't meth johnny about
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
SpineyNorman
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So have we established whether Sir Jim'll was working for the Jew World Order yet?
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Maybe not....
Leaving this aside, an interesting article on Jersey's child abuse.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/28/jersey-secrecy-culture
Louloubelle
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'Human bone' at centre of Jersey children's home inquiry is actually a piece of wood or coconut shell
By DAVID ROSE
Last updated at 23:26 18 May 2008
Police chief was told about forensic lab finding six weeks ago but kept it quiet
He is being investigated for "abuse of authority" by detectives from outside his force
Firms of lawyers are planning to claim damages for 27 former residents
The "remains of a child" discovered by police investigating allegations of abuse at a former children's home on Jersey is really a small piece of wood or broken coconut shell, The Mail on Sunday has learned.
The discovery of the fragment in February prompted police to open an inquiry into a possible murder at the Haut de la Garenne home; and this week detectives are set to announce further evidence which they believe shows that another two dead children were buried in the cellar.
But Jersey police were told almost six weeks ago that tests by Britain's top carbon-dating laboratory showed that the original evidence – supposedly a fragment of a child's skull – was not bone.
The island's controversial deputy police chief, Lenny Harper, who is heading the investigation, has consistently failed to mention the vital results in public statements since the tests were completed.
Interviewed in the home last Tuesday, he repeated: "It is a fragment of a human body...we don't know how, when or where that person died."
Last night Mr Harper admitted that his team had received emails reporting the test results on April 8, including a message that stated: "This one ain't bone."
But he insisted that had "never seen" a letter setting out the findings in more detail, which was addressed to him personally and dated May 1, until it was emailed to him yesterday.
Mr Harper also conceded that "clothing and other items" which he previously said had been found at the home – fuelling speculation that a child's grave had been unearthed – amounted to a piece of a button and a leather toggle.
However, he said he remained confident that the fragment was bone, based on the opinion of his forensic anthropologist, Julie Roberts, even though she had not been able to carry out detailed tests.
"As far as I am concerned, it was diagnosed as bone, and bone it remains," he said.
Scientists from the Oxford Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit spent weeks investigating the fragment with the world's most sophisticated equipment, whereas Ms Roberts had to reach her conclusion in a hurry – between the fragment's discovery at 9.30am on February 24 and Mr Harper's Press conference that afternoon.
<snip>
When he first revealed that his team had found part of a child's body, Mr Harper had already spent many months investigating allegations of physical and sexual abuse at Haut de la Garenne and elsewhere on the island.
But until this discovery, the case had attracted little interest.
When the Oxford scientists told Jersey's forensic services manager, Vicky Coupland, that the fragment was not bone, she urged them not to mention their conclusion in public, saying the police hoped to avoid a media row, which risked "detracting from the investigation as a whole".
The scientists, led by the lab's deputy director, Dr Tom Higham, were so concerned by Mr Harper's continued insistence that the fragment was human bone that they wrote to him formally on May 1.
They restated their findings and added that they had been endorsed by a second opinion from a leading bone expert, palaeontologist Dr Roger Jacobi.
"We concluded that the sample was not in fact bone but almost certainly a piece of wood," the letter said.
"Its curvature may have had something to do with it being misidentified. It appears to be more likely a seed casing or a small piece of coconut. Our conclusion is that this sample is a) not bone and b) not human."
Dr Jacobi said last night: "I share Tom's conclusions. I believe it is a piece of coconut shell, such as you might come across on a beach.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-piece-wood-coconut-shell.html#ixzz29PI6ttqb
By DAVID ROSE
Last updated at 23:26 18 May 2008
Police chief was told about forensic lab finding six weeks ago but kept it quiet
He is being investigated for "abuse of authority" by detectives from outside his force
Firms of lawyers are planning to claim damages for 27 former residents
The "remains of a child" discovered by police investigating allegations of abuse at a former children's home on Jersey is really a small piece of wood or broken coconut shell, The Mail on Sunday has learned.
The discovery of the fragment in February prompted police to open an inquiry into a possible murder at the Haut de la Garenne home; and this week detectives are set to announce further evidence which they believe shows that another two dead children were buried in the cellar.
But Jersey police were told almost six weeks ago that tests by Britain's top carbon-dating laboratory showed that the original evidence – supposedly a fragment of a child's skull – was not bone.
The island's controversial deputy police chief, Lenny Harper, who is heading the investigation, has consistently failed to mention the vital results in public statements since the tests were completed.
Interviewed in the home last Tuesday, he repeated: "It is a fragment of a human body...we don't know how, when or where that person died."
Last night Mr Harper admitted that his team had received emails reporting the test results on April 8, including a message that stated: "This one ain't bone."
But he insisted that had "never seen" a letter setting out the findings in more detail, which was addressed to him personally and dated May 1, until it was emailed to him yesterday.
Mr Harper also conceded that "clothing and other items" which he previously said had been found at the home – fuelling speculation that a child's grave had been unearthed – amounted to a piece of a button and a leather toggle.
However, he said he remained confident that the fragment was bone, based on the opinion of his forensic anthropologist, Julie Roberts, even though she had not been able to carry out detailed tests.
"As far as I am concerned, it was diagnosed as bone, and bone it remains," he said.
Scientists from the Oxford Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit spent weeks investigating the fragment with the world's most sophisticated equipment, whereas Ms Roberts had to reach her conclusion in a hurry – between the fragment's discovery at 9.30am on February 24 and Mr Harper's Press conference that afternoon.
<snip>
When he first revealed that his team had found part of a child's body, Mr Harper had already spent many months investigating allegations of physical and sexual abuse at Haut de la Garenne and elsewhere on the island.
But until this discovery, the case had attracted little interest.
When the Oxford scientists told Jersey's forensic services manager, Vicky Coupland, that the fragment was not bone, she urged them not to mention their conclusion in public, saying the police hoped to avoid a media row, which risked "detracting from the investigation as a whole".
The scientists, led by the lab's deputy director, Dr Tom Higham, were so concerned by Mr Harper's continued insistence that the fragment was human bone that they wrote to him formally on May 1.
They restated their findings and added that they had been endorsed by a second opinion from a leading bone expert, palaeontologist Dr Roger Jacobi.
"We concluded that the sample was not in fact bone but almost certainly a piece of wood," the letter said.
"Its curvature may have had something to do with it being misidentified. It appears to be more likely a seed casing or a small piece of coconut. Our conclusion is that this sample is a) not bone and b) not human."
Dr Jacobi said last night: "I share Tom's conclusions. I believe it is a piece of coconut shell, such as you might come across on a beach.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-piece-wood-coconut-shell.html#ixzz29PI6ttqb
Louloubelle
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Just for clarification
I am NOT saying that abuses did not occur at Haut de la Garenne.
I am also not claiming that there is not a network of powerful predators and perverts covering up abuses of kids in Jersey. Their very well might be for all I know.
I simply find myself feeling disturbed and concerned when people make wildly unfounded announcements about child murders, especially when made in relation to a serious investigation regarding the sexual abuse of children.
9.30 in just listen to all the completely fantastical claims this guy is making
It's outrageous and I can understand why other cops were concerned that his fantastical proclamations were adversely affecting the investigation.
I am NOT saying that abuses did not occur at Haut de la Garenne.
I am also not claiming that there is not a network of powerful predators and perverts covering up abuses of kids in Jersey. Their very well might be for all I know.
I simply find myself feeling disturbed and concerned when people make wildly unfounded announcements about child murders, especially when made in relation to a serious investigation regarding the sexual abuse of children.
9.30 in just listen to all the completely fantastical claims this guy is making
It's outrageous and I can understand why other cops were concerned that his fantastical proclamations were adversely affecting the investigation.
Louloubelle
Well-Known Member
The Grauniad writer has simply taken the professional opinion of Ms Roberts more seriously than the professional opinions of the scientists from the Oxford Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit, who spent weeks testing the fragment, unlike Roberts who had to make an on the spot decision with no proper resources.
Just because the Grauniad piece is later does not mean that it is an update, it appears to be simply badly researched.
cesare
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Perhaps. Certainly I'd be interested to see a source for this:
I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of it.
Louloubelle
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I think that, once a team of serious scientists who are experts in their field have spent weeks investigating a tiny fragment of something or other and have confidently declared that it is a) not bone and b) not human then it is up to the journalist concerned to show a source, or at least name the name of the expert concerned should that journalist contest those findings.
Helen Pidd has not named any foresnsic experts in her piece and appears to have simply adopted Lenny Harper's stance of "la la la la I'm not listening" when she reports that "experts disagree" about the fragment.
Helen Pidd has not named any foresnsic experts in her piece and appears to have simply adopted Lenny Harper's stance of "la la la la I'm not listening" when she reports that "experts disagree" about the fragment.
Johnny Canuck3
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