the sir jimmy savile obe thread

[albionism]

This is the sir jimmy savile obe thread, not the st john peel thread. Start another thread if you want to discuss that.

We say what we want, where we want

 

[Mr Moose]

This is the sir jimmy savile obe thread, not the st john peel thread. Start another thread if you want to discuss that.

Lol. Radical pedant orders no deviation.

 

[pinkmonkey]

Details emerge about Savile's "pervmobile" from his former driver.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/jimmy-savile-used-a-pervmobile-to-abuse-1374092

I'm getting really sick of comments like the one under that article. Some people have no idea do they?

Ok I got shouted down for hearsay on the original thread and removed it, BUT this is relevant, a FOF knows of someone whose father did report their daughters abuse. He ended up being threatened by Saviles lawyers, told to forget it, that Savile had friends in the police and they would get nowhere.

 

[Pickman's model]

Lol. Radical pedant orders no deviation.

but there's a thread about st john peel in this very forum.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm getting really sick of comments like the one under that article. Some people have no idea do they?

Ok I got shouted down for hearsay on the original thread and removed it, BUT this is relevant, a FOF knows of someone whose father did report their daughters abuse. He ended up being threatened by Saviles lawyers, told to forget it, that Savile had friends in the police and they would get nowhere.

that's not hearsay that's more tenuous than hearsay

 

[Mr Moose]

but there's a thread about st john peel in this very forum.

Good point. I retract my barb.

I just hope we don't end up with a forum entitled 'General Pervery'.

 

[Kanda]

but there's a thread about st john peel in this very forum.

That you created after he'd posted lol

 

[cesare]

That you created after he'd posted lol

Excellent work

 

[Pickman's model]

That you created after he'd posted lol

Have you read the op in this thread? one of the reasons so many sir jimmy savile threads have been locked is people making claims about other celebs. Let's keep this thread about savile, to help it remain open.

 

[two sheds]

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[Pickman's model]

Don't want to talk about Peel

You ignorant cunt.

Of course, I want to talk about peel so little it's a wonder I started a thread on him.

 

[two sheds]

I was tutting at my own post, which tried to say exactly that but failed.

 

[Gingerman]

http://www.jewishtelegraph.com/savile.html
See he wasn't all bad

 

[Louloubelle]

I'm getting really sick of comments like the one under that article. Some people have no idea do they?

Ok I got shouted down for hearsay on the original thread and removed it, BUT this is relevant, a FOF knows of someone whose father did report their daughters abuse. He ended up being threatened by Saviles lawyers, told to forget it, that Savile had friends in the police and they would get nowhere.

This is one of the most shocking elements of the unfolding story. It seems that plenty of people reported Savile to their managers at work and even to the police and that no action was taken against him except for one time (IMMIC in 2007) when he was arrested but the CPS claimed that there was insufficient evidence to prosecute.

We have an excerpt from Savile's own autobiography in which he claims that he would never be prosecuted because he would take half the police in the local station down with him.

I wonder if we will ever find out about exactly who covered up what and why?

 

[bignose1]

He's buried at 45deg so he can see the sea.... yeah right. There must be some other reason that's to do with him still noncing, just can't think of it atm.

Dont be so obtuse

 

[Cornetto]

On BBC look north last night they were talking about digging the corpse of Saville up and burying in an unmarked grave, it's all going a bit brass eye up Leeds!

 

[Louloubelle]

I don't know if this has been linked to yet, I don't think so, saw it last night on Channel 4, early footage of teenagers asking Savile some of the difficult questions that the adults around him dared not ask

http://blogs.channel4.com/gurublog/jimmy-savile-cold-aggressive-menacing/2749

 

[Louloubelle]

On BBC look north last night they were talking about digging the corpse of Saville up and burying in an unmarked grave, it's all going a bit brass eye up Leeds!

I have to confess that a part of me would quite like to join in with the whole "dig him up!" mob excitement.

I was thinking about this and I think that the symbolism of JS being buried and protected by concrete is so symbolic of the cover-ups surrounding him that there is a collective wish to expose his corpse to the fury of the mob as we need to feel some kind of punishment has been administered, even if post mortem. There is also such collective outrage about his abuses that there is a wish for him to no longer have places to hide, even in death.

Another, more rational, less emotional part of myself understands that Savile was just the puss filled head of a gigantic boil on the arse of the BBC and the various hospitals and children's' homes that Savile used as his happy hunting grounds.

So, er, yes the wish to dig him up is understandable and comes partly from a wish to expose and throw light on all the rotten things that have been hidden. The real work of what needs to be exposed is to dig up all the dirt on all of the senior police officers, hospital and children's homes managers, BBC employees and others who protected Savile and who are still alive and can be held accountable for their actions (or inactions).

 

[King Biscuit Time]

I wonder if the Savile situation has made any of those snooty authors who kicked off about being CRB checked before frequent school visits change their tune? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8153251.stm

Phillip Pullman, Anthony Horowitz, Anne Fine, Michael Morpurgo - I'm looking at you. No-one is above being CRB checked - doesn't matter if you think you're doing the kids a favour, or if you can't see how you might end up in a position where you've developed a position of trust with a child.

 

[Orang Utan]

i know it's obvious to point out, but this things is so chris morris. him and iannucci in the thick of it have a habit of being ridiculously prescient.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I don't know if this has been linked to yet, I don't think so, saw it last night on Channel 4, early footage of teenagers asking Savile some of the difficult questions that the adults around him dared not ask

http://blogs.channel4.com/gurublog/jimmy-savile-cold-aggressive-menacing/2749

I don't think I really want to watch that, though I might do at some point, but it's interesting to read his account and that the teens weren't in awe of Savile then.

 

[Orang Utan]

it's weird how our perception of him is so different than it was in the seventies. we mistrusted and suspected him as adults, even before the revelations came out. the rumours were very pervasive, but they still took twenty odd years to filter through

 

[pinkmonkey]

I can't really remember what I thought of him in the seventies, that he was a bit odd?
I think I remember my grandfather worked with him 'down't pit' but him and my gran are both dead now so I can't ask either of them.

 

[ShortyKar]

Personally I prefer to think that someone is innocent until proven guilty. I am not saying that Jimmy is innocent nor guilty, it just seems that in a very short space of time the media have decided that he is guilty without any propper due process.

Personally I prefer to think that someone is innocent until proven guilty. I am not saying that Jimmy is innocent nor guilty, it just seems that in a very short space of time the media have decided that he is guilty without any propper due process.

I make you right to be fair...I'm not saying that he isn't a nonse. Maybe he is - who knows? Who is EVER going to know? He's dead now and so cannot contest the allegations anyway and I just find it rather bizarre that this has all come out AFTER he's kicked the bucket...if this was me, I'd want the fucker stripped of his knighthood and strung up in front of the public. Named, shamed and on the sex offenders register. I wouldn't let a nonse have any glory and if he really is (or was) guilty and really did assualt all those 120 girls then surely there would have been enough evidence amidst this to prosecute him?? And surely to god at least one of the 120 girls would have piped up whilst he was still alive? Oh, I don't know...

 

[frogwoman]

they did.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

Buyers of Jimmy Savile tat are now complaining that their shit isn't worth anything any more - you couldn't make it up!

A man who bought Jimmy Savile's Rolls-Royce says he now wants nothing to do with the car after allegations of abuse by the star.
The scrap dealer, who asked not to be identified, paid £160,000 for the 10-year-old Corniche Convertible with Savile's personalised number plate JS 247 at a charity auction.
Speaking exclusively to Sky News, he said he fears it is now worth less than half that - £70,000 - and he has consulted a barrister about legal action to try and get his money back.
"I don't want to be associated with it," he said.
"I'm just gutted because all of this should have come out before hand."

http://news.sky.com/story/996611/buyer-of-jimmy-saviles-rolls-royce-gutted

 

[Louloubelle]

Buyers of Jimmy Savile tat are now complaining that their shit isn't worth anything any more - you couldn't make it up!

http://news.sky.com/story/996611/buyer-of-jimmy-saviles-rolls-royce-gutted

I was thinking about the Museum of Racist memorabilia in the US, a fabulous exhibition that teaches people about the evils of racism via displaying horrific examples of racist signs and objects from history.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...0-exhibits-leave-visitors-angry-offended.html

Perhaps we should have a museum of child abuse collaborators, in which hateful objects belonging to JS would have pride of place, and where people could learn not so much about child abuse, as the conscious and unconscious systems that protect predators from justice and allow them to hurt children?

 

[RaverDrew]

Fucking hell, have I woken up in a parallel universe ??? The Daily Mail citing Jerry Sadowitz as the voice of reason... I never thought I'd see the day ​

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2216358/Why-did-listen-Jerrys-howl-rage.html ​

‘There have been serious allegations of child abuse in Cleveland. To my mind there is only one way to find out whether this is true or not and that’s to . . . CALL IN JIMMY SAVILE! You can’t afford to f*** about! Bring in an expert! Am I right? A friend of mine reckons Jimmy Savile is a paedophile. Rubbish — he’s a child-bender! That’s why he does all the f****** charity work: it’s to gain public sympathy for when his f****** case comes up.’

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[Orang Utan]

I was thinking about the Museum of Racist memorabilia in the US, a fabulous exhibition that teaches people about the evils of racism via displaying horrific examples of racist signs and objects from history.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132032/Inside-new-1-3m-Museum-Racist-Memorabilia-9-000-exhibits-leave-visitors-angry-offended.html

Perhaps we should have a museum of child abuse collaborators, in which hateful objects belonging to JS would have pride of place, and where people could learn not so much about child abuse, as the conscious and unconscious systems that protect predators from justice and allow them to hurt children?

It would make a great ride in Blackpool

 

[ruffneck23]

Buyers of Jimmy Savile tat are now complaining that their shit isn't worth anything any more - you couldn't make it up!




http://news.sky.com/story/996611/buyer-of-jimmy-saviles-rolls-royce-gutted

its typical of human nature theses day, it was like the bloke who immediately started about sueing the cinema, warner bros etc after the dark knight shootings, this bloke makes me feel a bit sick tbh, girls and women have alledgedly suffered from savilles behaviour and all he worrys about is the lost of value to his car, there really isnt much hope for this planet...