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spanglechick said:
i had the same feeling about Seville when I was young. Also about Michael Barrymore (not a nonce, very likely dodgy as fuck). I have had cause to wonder whether it was prescience. Thing is, I also had that feeling about Christopher Biggins, who afaik is a really nice bloke... I think what they actually had in common was that way of joking with the kid but in a way that left the child to embarrassed to know what to say. A bit banter-y (flirty?), but because they're talking to a kid, there's a power imbalance to do with confidence and wit etc.

Anyway, yeah. I think that was the common factor, rather than nascent "nonce-dar", in my case.
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yes can see what you mean about the way they interacted with kids - slightly above them and yes, a definite power imbalance.

I hated clowns as a kid, still not over keen. I think the common factor in mine was the grinning face and empty laugh, like grotesque fairground figures - Savile, King and Hall all did the fake 'isn't life wonderful' routine. I must have assumed they weren't to be trusted. not in a possible child abuser way, but in a 'what are they hiding ' way. Too clown like . In the same way i never took to Norman Wisdom , a national hero to some, just left me cold.
 
clown fear comes from the inability to distinguish between hilaity and hysteria in the pre verbal child who takes clues from the visual- a painted face disguises that causing distress

imo
 
Can't link from this device but exaro has an recent article citing calls from 7 MPs across parties calling on Theresa May to set up a national enquiry in to repeated failures of police in child sex abuse cases.
 
I'm going to have to try to wade through the hospital reports myself when I get time as Alan Franey has been mentioned in the press in several different contexts, but without enough detail to satisfy me. I'm sure anyone who followed the details in this and other threads was expecting Franey to pop up in these reports.

Some press examples:

Savile’s pal Alan Franey, who became Broadmoor boss, was allegedly told about three sex assaults there in the 1990s.

Mr Franey said he does not remember this.

But the Broadmoor report says: “In our view, it is impossible to examine Savile’s position in the hospital and his ability to exploit it without understanding Franey’s role in the management of the hospital.”
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nine-jimmy-savile-victims-abuse-3772873#ixzz35pv0Vif3

The report also said that an ex-patient had reported passing on complaints about Savile’s behaviour to Alan Franey, then the general manager of Broadmoor and a friend of Savile’s, in the 1990s, from three female patients - although there was no record of the complaint and Franey said he could not recall handling it.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...mmy-Saviles-sickening-abuse-in-hospitals.html

The report, published today, stated: “The former chief executive of the High Security Psychiatric Services Commissioning Board, Ray Rowden, reported to us that he had been told by the chief executive of the hospital, Alan Franey, that Savile had a ‘little secret’, a ‘liking for young girls, the younger the better’.

“This is strenuously denied by Franey, and it is not clear whether ‘the younger the better’ was understood in any way to encompass those below the age of consent.”
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http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/jimmy...ex_offender_had_little_secret_claim_1_3657817
 
If there is a Hell.... I'd like to think they'd be room mates.

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existentialist said:
Never have I been so glad not to have had a TV when I was young. I can say with all sincerity that these people never even had the opportunity to become my idols...
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you might have expected it of the likes of savile, but not auld rolf :( at least no one's fingered johnny morris off animal magick as a paedo
 
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